Filtering wrap up: Bloggers wipe out McMenamin, Watchdog

December 17, 2008 – 11:43 pm

Jon Seymour and Stilgherrian replied swiftly to Bernadette McMenamin’s (Child Wise) sickening accusation that Australians who protest mandatory ISP filtering are advocating child pornography.

Jon writes:

Bernadette McMenamin’s business is moral panic. She has a vested interest in it. From her point of view, an ineffective filter is actually a very good thing, because it means the oxygen that sustains the flames of moral panic, and her organization ChildWise, will never disappear.

Perhaps this is uncharitable. Perhaps McMenamin and ChildWise have done worthy work in the past. Perhaps they do some now. But why should anyone continue to be charitable about a person who unapologeticly accuses her opponents of being witting or unwitting supporters of child pornography. That is a completely despicable accusation as McMenamin herself should well know – if her tears about the plight of abused children mean anything at all.

Stilgherrian in Crikey:

Gloves-off time. The purveyors of pervasive internet censorship – handful that they are – have burned their goodwill. It’s time to call them out on their lies and demand to know why they’re not advocating the real solutions to child sexual abuse.

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Every single dollar wasted on a demonstrably unworkable filter isn’t just wasting taxpayers’ money in tough times. It’s a dollar that hasn’t gone to the police so they can do what does work. Good old-fashioned policing and the kind of undercover sting that resulted in 19 arrests last week, including a retired QC and a NSW police officer.

That’s the most tragic element of this whole affair. How many children remain suffering at the hand of an abuser as the government and Child Wise fight to introduce mandatory filtering? We might consider Child Wise’s support of a filter as well-intended, but at what point does it become incompetence?

In other news, NZ filter vendor Watchdog says Australians opposing mandatory ISP filtering are overstating the problems. Surprise, surprise.

A modern filter need have no detectable effect on the passage of ordinary traffic, says Watchdog managing director Peter Mancer. The compulsory filtering being considered by the Australian government will relate to only a very small number of sites (in the thousands). Requests including the IP addresses of such sites are diverted into a special stream by the Border Gateway Protocol — the same process used to decide on the most efficient route for ordinary traffic, says Mancer; so there is no overhead.

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Watchdog is the Australasian agent for a version of this technology from 8e6, newly merged with Marshal.

Systems engineer Geordie Guy explains 8e6:

The reality is that 8e6 is one flavour of “pass by” instead of “pass through” filtering, where traffic is sent both directly to it’s destination and also through a filtering system.  The filtering system analyses its copy of the traffic and if it detects that “unwanted” content is being accessed, it resets the other live stream – stopping the moral decay almost immediately.

Mancer’s assertion that there is no overhead is obviously patent rubbish, there is overhead if you ever do anything other than have a completely unfiltered and uninterfered with stream.  The problem is that ISPs who implement this technology essentially have to build an entire new segment with systems capable of filtering through a copy of every piece of traffic that they are currently transiting.

He also discusses how it relates to those filters tested in Tasmania.

At the other end of the spectrum, PC based filter vendor Webroot says the Federal government is so hell-bent on discrediting the previous government’s scheme that it has overlooked the portions of the scheme that may have worked, namely the free PC based filters soon to be given the chop.

Elsewhere, Netspace seeks opinions on mandatory filtering and BanThisURL interviews computer security professional Matthew Strahan.

However, I’ll leave you with this one to digest (or cough up): At a gathering of Australian Catholic Bishops on Sunday, Bishop Peter Ingham of Wollongong said he backed the government proposal for a national Internet filter and that others should support it because:

Comparable Western countries, such as the UK, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland already have ISP filtering in operation.

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Arguments that civil liberties will be infringed by Internet filtering are absolutely spurious, as the government’s proposal simply aims to ensure that the material accessible on the Internet is in line with the restrictions already in place in regard to DVDs or publications.

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Pornography of any kind is harmful to human dignity and often degrading to women. Research shows that Internet pornography is also becoming more and more harmful to marriages and relationships. In particular, every parent knows that much of the pornographic material that can be found on the Internet ought not to be accessible to children.

In line? Pornographic DVDs legally available to purchase from the ACT are commonly illegal to host online in Australia and under ACMA guidelines ‘prohibited content’ Degrading to women, but not men? That sounds like the old argument of needing to protect ‘our little ladies’. Some but not all pornographic content ought not to be accessible to children? You could pick away for years at just the quotes above.

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  1. 5 Responses to “Filtering wrap up: Bloggers wipe out McMenamin, Watchdog”

  2. “At a gathering of Australian Catholic Bishops ….”

    Now there is a group of men who know a lot about pedophilia and degradation of women.

    By Carl on Dec 18, 2008

  3. I think Bernadette would do well to stop drawing attention to herself. Questions regarding the quality of her oft-quoted statistics will soon turn to questions regarding the commonwealth funding Childwise receives.

    Bishop Peter Ingham must be pretty confident that Catholic or Christian views will never be censored. I can’t decide if this is naive or sinister.

    By Sam D on Dec 18, 2008

  4. Just as the Spoonman suggested, i can see it now, religious nutters from all across Australia getting together signing petitions and numerous complaints against all pornographic websites to be chucked onto the compulsory filter. Given that these people may make up a large section of the population the govt may have serious problems dealing with them and may simply just give in.

    By Jarrod on Dec 18, 2008

  5. That last quote is definitely ripe for picking apart. It’s always rich to see the Catholic church suddenly caring about women when it comes to pornography, though it’s happy to oppress them in a myriad of other ways.

    “Research shows…” What research? What about Catharine Lumby’s Porn Report that shows most Australians are relaxed about porn and find it beneficial?

    The pro-filter argument that filtering brings the net in line with Australia’s existing classification system needs to be better addressed.

    My personal view is that Australia’s existing system of classification needs to be thoroughly overhauled to reflect the community standards of 21st century Australia: namely that Aussies like porn, that it doesn’t cause societal or personal harm and that consensual sexually explicit content should be legal to view no matter what media it comes in.

    I would argue that, as it stands, the OFLC already tramples on our right to freedom of speech thanks to its ability to ban films by refusing classification. The classification system should be voluntary as it is in the US.

    Essentially, it should not be up to the government or the OFLC to decide what I as an adult can view.

    That should be the answer to the “bringing into line” argument – although I realise it may be considered a little too “out there” for some.

    But if you think the current classification system is working, consider how the films of Tony Comstock were banned
    http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2007/09/24/our-decision-is-final/
    http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2006/09/08/an-open-letter-regarding-the-cancelled-queerdoc-screening-of-damon-and-hunter/
    while other films like Destricted made it through because they were more “serious”.

    Do we really think the people at the OFLC are representing society’s interests? What are they protecting us from?

    We don’t need to bring the internet into line with current restrictions on freedom of speech because those restrictions in and of themselves should not exist in the first place.

    By Ms Naughty on Dec 18, 2008

  6. I agree with you Ms Naughty the OFLC can be really inconsistent with it ratings to video games especially. The fact that we dont have an R18+ rating is a major factor but that aside, games like Silent Hill: Homecoming that was RC’ed is about as equally violent as Gears of War or even movies like Saw 4 which were both passed with an MA15+ rating.

    By Jarrod on Dec 18, 2008

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