Australia bans small breasts
January 27, 2010 – 11:41 pmThe Australian Sex Party (ASP) said Wednesday that the Australian Classification Board (ACB) is now banning depictions of small-breasted women in adult publications and films. It comes just a week after it was found that material with depictions of females ejaculating during orgasm are now Refused Classification and Australian Customs directed to confiscate it.
ASP’s Fiona Patten writes on her party’s website that they are starting to see depictions of women in their late 20s being banned because they have an A cup breast size:
“This is in response to a campaign led by Kids Free 2 B Kids and promoted by Barnaby Joyce and Guy Barnett in Senate Estimates late last year. Mainstream companies such as Larry Flint’s Hustler produce some of the publications that have been banned. These companies are regulated by the FBI to ensure that only adult performers are featured in their publications.”
Patten writes that such bans may be an unintended consequence of the Senator’s actions “but they are largely responsible for the sharp increase in breast size in Australian adult magazines of late”.
How can this be happening
The National Classification Code dictates that anything that describes or depicts a person who is, or appears to be, a child under 18 (whether the person is engaged in sexual activity or not) in a way that is likely to cause offence to a reasonable adult is Refused Classification.
State Crime Acts are also similar. Victoria’s Criminal Code includes the ‘or appears to be’ clause in its definition of child pornography and it doesn’t need to cause offence to a reasonable adult for it to be illegal.
Even if you are 18 years old but you look younger, taking a photograph of your breasts and uploading it to the Internet could land you or someone you know in serious trouble.
Keep in mind it’s highly unlikely that a naked photograph of a 30, 40 or 50 year old woman with small breasts would ‘appear’ to be child pornography on the basis of her breast size alone. Small breasts do not automatically mean something will be banned or is illegal.
A bad message
Australian adult blogger Ms Naughty says we need to look at what this ruling says to Australian women:
“Why ban small boobs? I can only assume it stems from paranoia that flat chests somehow stir up the pedophiles. And you only need to mention that “p” word to start a full-scale moral panic in Parliament.”
“Shall we put such hysteria aside and look at what this ruling is saying to Australian women? Basically, it’s classing a certain normal female body type as obscene. It’s declaring all flat chests to be automatically juvenile, something that should not be viewed by anyone because of a fear that it will stir up “base instincts” in certain people.”
“Can the Classification Board be any more insulting or sexist?”
Ejaculations
According to Patten, female ejaculations films are being Refused Classification on one of two grounds:
- That the depictions are a form of urination which is banned under the label of ‘golden showers’ in the Classification Guidelines or
- Female ejaculation is an ‘abhorrent’ depiction
“Films that show both male and female ejaculation have routinely been given an X rating since 1983″ said Patten. “The new ruling follows a boom in the numbers of adult films featuring female ejaculation since the pioneering research of Professor Emeritus Beverly Whipple was published in her book The G Spot.”
Content Refused Classification will be blocked to Australian adults under the Government’s planned Internet censorship scheme.
“There are over one million sites featuring female ejaculation and for Australia to be banning depictions and discussion of this important issue, takes us back into the Victorian era where they didn’t even believe that women could have orgasms.”
The ACB has been contacted for comment.
205 Responses to “Australia bans small breasts”
Fuck that. I want itty bitty titties! . . . actually, I love all boobies, as long as they’re not silicone-enhanced monsters.
By Sgt Throat on Jan 28, 2010
Is there anything more absurd than a supposedly free society legally regulating matters of taste? We’re not talking about criminalizing actions, which might be understandable; we’re talking about a government deciding it should regulate what its people may be permitted to enjoy.
In short, this amounts to establishing “thought crime.”
By moritheil on Jan 28, 2010
I don’t believe the classification board should take any part in moral decisions regarding human sexuality and it’s depictions.
I don’t believe that adult films and publications should be classified. I believe they should be self regulated with regards to consent and underage participants.
Peter Breen (former MLC of the New South Wales State Parliament) noting that there were an enormous number of illegal films available in New South Wales brought the matter to the attention of the New South Wales Parliament
It’s easier to refer to my LiveJournal entry on this
http://bobbain.livejournal.com/325700.html
The Parliament sat around discussed the illegality of material on sale (much of which would be “RC” and decided that the status quo was fine.
That was in October 2004.
Senator Conroy constantly states that it’s not possible to purchase RC material or play a DVD. Senator Conroy may be surprised to learn that thousands of people do just this in New South Wales every day of every year and having been doing so for a couple of decades at least.
Bob
By Bob Bain on Jan 28, 2010
Apologies for the grammar and some of the spelling in the entry above.
Aa a point of interest Peter Breen (then a member of the New South Wales legislative council ) sent me a copy of his private member’s bill. I wasn’t entirely comfortable with it as it increased the penalties with regards to “RC” material which as many people note includes art films and depictions of legal acts between consenting adults.
Peter Breen supported a complaint I made to the Commonwealth Ombudsman’s office regarding the fact that violent depictions of rape were freely available. Two officers of the OFLC told me (and the Commonwealth Ombudsman’s department) that fantasy depictions of violent rape aren’t sufficient grounds to report their availability to the New South Wales police – who knew about it anyway.
Is Senator Conroy out of step ?
At least New South Wales doesn’t hide R18+ films in brown paper covers as they do in South Australia since January 10th.
I no longer have the VHS tapes the OFLC returned to me in 2004 and which were submitted to them on the advice of the State Attorney General.
Peter joined the ALP for a short period before being dumped by the Premier of New South Wales (rightly or wrongly I wouldn’t know). Peter wrote a book with regards to what he regarded as harsh sentences handed out to juveniles. Unforunately (in my mind) he is alleged to have sent a copy to the parents of the rape victim.
Bob
By Bob Bain on Jan 28, 2010
Just to throw a spanner in the works here: isn’t there still a fair amount of debate into whether female ejaculation is urine or not?
By Andy B on Jan 28, 2010
Uh…breast size has nothing to do with age. You can be 14 and have double Ds or 40 and have As. And female ejaculation is not urine. Urine doesn’t come from the vagina, just FYI. I guess Australia doesn’t understand how the female human body works.
By Flabbergasted on Jan 28, 2010
What next mandatory breast enlargement surgery on all females that has small breasts?
I don’t think its more possible for me to be ashamed calling myself Australian.
By Mr1979 on Jan 28, 2010
“isn’t there still a fair amount of debate into whether female ejaculation is urine or not?”
Because depicting females urinating would somehow be bad?
By Robert Wiblin on Jan 28, 2010
Andy B – I think that the “it’s just urine” falsehood continues to spread because some “squirting” websites/films obviously get their models to fake ejaculation by urinating.
By Rob on Jan 28, 2010
Thanks Mike for this post. You take a far more sensible approach, I tend to get a bit angry and start to rant.
Andy B, please see my post “The Strange Politics Of Obscene Bodily Fluids”
http://www.msnaughty.com/blog/2010/01/16/the-strange-politics-of-obscene-bodily-fluids/
Female ejaculation has been scientifically documented. The liquid squirted from the urethra is clear or milky and comes from the para-urethral glands. Tests reveal that it is not urine.
Some porn actresses cheat and fake squirting by filling the vagina with water which is then expelled while she fakes an orgasm. As Fiona Patten points out, it’s not against the law to depict vaginal douching.
But when you get down to it… why should it matter what bodily fluid we’re talking about? If everyone is a consenting adult, whose business is it to declare one particular sex act “obscene”? Why is the Board saying one bodily fluid is OK (semen) but others are not? They are, in effect, regulating sexuality and narrowly defining what sex acts and body types are “good” or “bad”.
By Ms Naughty on Jan 28, 2010
This is silly. I thought a country like Australia would be more mature than this. This level of censorship is unaccpetable in any civilized society. Will someone give the Aussie government a basic middle-school anatomy lesson, please?
By CombatTalon on Jan 28, 2010
Excellent.. Keep going guys! The more obviously pathetic stuff you do the more people will realise that the filter is a big problem. If you keep screwing up like this there is no way Labor will win the next election and our (more conservative?!?) party can restore some of our freedoms.
By Daniel on Jan 28, 2010
@Andy B – there’s been a great deal of confirmation that most female ejaculation in pornography is urine. I’m wondering if the production studios could dodge this ban by just using slightly more sophisticated special effects – an appropriately placed garden hose could probably reproduce the visual effect as seen on most websites.
Of course that part about it being an ‘abhorrent’ depiction might still be a problem. Maybe they can appoint someone to the board who doesn’t think that women enjoying sexuality is ‘abhorrent’.
By Scootah on Jan 28, 2010
So what they’re telling me is my woman is banned from posing in artistic photos, drawings, and paintings? And all of her work must be tossed in a fire to be burned? This is absolutely insane. They’re sending me the message that its wrong for me to make love to my girlfriend, and that i am some type of sick individual for even thinking so. All because of her breast size. Who are THEY to pass this type of judgement on ADULT women. This is absolutely ludicrous, drivel, tomfoolery, hogwash, twaddle.
By Livid on Jan 28, 2010
Wow this is just getting embarrassing for us Aussies
By Jarrod on Jan 28, 2010
Yep, Australia once again proves that we can do classification just as good as SOCIETY HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO. Aussie aussie aussie.
By Guy on Jan 28, 2010
With the filter coming in soon, and now the banning of small breasted women in adult erotica, how am I going to satisfy my erotic yearnings for children?
Won’t somebody think of the pedo’s?
::Seriously Australia – this censorship shit is just getting beyond a joke::
By Peter on Jan 28, 2010
I’m with Livid on this…
My girlfriend has a smaller cup size, does this make me a pedo in their books?
By A on Jan 28, 2010
So anyone with an A cup breasted wife is a pedophile? How disturbing.
Should such relationships be banned also? Should A cup breasted women be banned from intercourse? It follows their twisted logic.
By Ale on Jan 28, 2010
Anything that makes women ashamed of their bodies, or connects people with paedophiles who are NOT paedophiles, or says that something is ‘abhorrent’ even if it’s natural for that person to be able to do it, is just WRONG.
By Eeryn on Jan 28, 2010
I am a male with small (A cup) breasts. Would it be illegal for me to pose topless?
I also have a small penis.
By Annoyed on Jan 28, 2010
Shall we ban tiny penises too?
By B on Jan 28, 2010
Does anyone have some Classification Board links to pornographic material that his been RCed primarily due to ’small breasted models’ I having I hard time finding if this is actually happening?
By Jarrod on Jan 28, 2010
Will they ban small penis porn on the same grounds? If not, that is a sexist decision. If they do, they are the biggest pack of idiots ever.
By Sam Clifford on Jan 28, 2010
Are they going to ban small penises too? This is seriously insulting.
By ashley on Jan 28, 2010
the fuck?
banning small breasts?
what powerhungry nazi crackhead do they have in their office?
By Jeff on Jan 28, 2010
Oh I see the grand plan here… Ban small breasts, increase the overall size of breasts in porn, boys and men are exposed to even bigger breasts in porn than before, and reach never-before-scene heights of pressuring their girlfriends into getting breast enlargement surgery… You know, since small breasts won’t exist anymore in the media so it can’t be normal anymore.
:: Just taking the piss here, but there’s this thought in the back of my head thinking about the “normal weight” charts in the offices of American doctors, because they’ve gotten so used to seeing obese people that it’s harder to note what’s a normal weight range anymore ::
By Sansha on Jan 28, 2010
Somebody is really-really sick up there…
By joe on Jan 28, 2010
When a flat-chested girl hugs you, she is holding you closer to her heart. -Unknown
I guess we won’t be having any of that now, will we.
By Suppish on Jan 28, 2010
This is what happens when you don’t have freedom of expression. Australia has no constitutional right of free speech.
I think it’s time for Australians to rise up and murder their bastard politicians, oh wait…you all gave up most of your guns.
You are going down the same path as the UK. Enjoy your Orwellian shithole.
By Josh on Jan 28, 2010
lol, thank the flying spaghetti monster i dont live in australia
By Jesus on Jan 28, 2010
What next? Digital mosaic on all genitals as in Japan, and stars or ‘pasties’ on nipples?
Oh shit, I hope they don’t read this, they might get some even more stupid ideas.
It seems like we are back in the darks ages, “Burn all the books” and sell bibles only in Latin, so you will have to have a priest interpret for you.
Maybe Global Warming will be a good thing, then the earth can start afresh.
By Sean Burns on Jan 28, 2010
As expected of a nation of convicts.
Trying to make up for their embarrassing criminal past by trying to make more draconian laws than any other country in the world.
By Seba on Jan 28, 2010
The filter has gone beyond being a censorship issue. Now it is also a feminist issue, and a human rights issue in more ways than Hillary Clinton envisaged in her recent speech.
We have a right to our bodies, to have small breasts and/or small-breasted partners. More than that, there is a need for people to feel comfortable with and appreciate the diversity of human body proportions.
I would like to say more but it is hard when you are speechless.
Great work, Mike.
By Pam Rosengren on Jan 28, 2010
Sorry, I don’t think banning anything will stop anyone from obtaining what they want via digital means. This is either taking the piss, or some ridiculous hoax, because, let’s get real, people, what the hell does any of this have to do with obscenity and protection of children?
Then, why should it be censored by some over-zealous, religious right nutjobs in Canberra?
Indeed, even if children “are at risk” it’s not because the government failed to do it’s job, it comes down to the parent/guardian.
No censorship. Remove power from those in government and give it back to individuals to self-regulate. Parents are doing a damn fine job, thank you very much. So sick of being told what is “inappropriate” for me. Bloody fascists.
By Marty on Jan 28, 2010
Haha, I havent got an A-cup since 3rd grade, but I dont think the creepy men minded…
By Just det on Jan 28, 2010
I’ve got another one for them. Hairless pubes can rightly be considered infantile, no? We need to ban all web sites that have images of adults with Brazilian wax jobs or any similar procedure that removes pubic hair. Also any web sites that link to them. Now we’re getting somewhere with banning that pesky world wide web in toto.
By Pam Rosengren on Jan 28, 2010
This is also why we don’t see many Asian women in magazines in Australia. So not only is this really sexist, it’s racist in my opinion.
Besides being totally stupid, this is really sets a bad exaple for body image in women.
By Matthew on Jan 28, 2010
I think everyone so far has overlooked the true problem with this.
Where is the criteria that classifies breasts as “small?”
Sometime in the not-so-distant future, small breasts are defined as anything less than an “FF” cup- suddenly the “filter” starts blocking every site out there.
Lawmakers don’t leave “grey areas” by accident; no doubt this is intentional.
By Bob on Jan 28, 2010
As most porn sites are aggregators, this will generally make them ALL RC… heaven forbid you might chance upon a woman dressed as a schoolgirl or a cheerleader… perhaps even being spanked!
These unnatural urges to lust after nubile young women must be curbed!
By Peter on Jan 28, 2010
This is fuckin attrocious.
Next you’ll be telling us when to eat, when to sleep, when to fart… the list goes on.
So what if people like chicks with little tits?
What fuckin idiot decided that was wrong?
I know HEAPS of very attractive ADULT women with smaller than average breasts.
They are not obscene or unacceptable in any way.
And women ejaculating during orgasm is a natural thing for some women, and there is nothing wrong with it.
The dickheads approving this shiie have probably never seen a vagina let alone given a women an orgasm.
Get fucked ya nazi cunts. Its YOU who needs to be kept away from the kids.
By DEMON on Jan 28, 2010
WOW, I HAVE SMALL BREASTS AND THIS WHOLE THING BROUGHT ME TO TEARS! AM I THAT UGLY AND UNWANTED, APPALLING TO MEN? TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY?? MY GOD, THAT JUST MAKES ME WANT TO DIE. I ALREADY HAVE SELF IMAGE ISSUES-HUGE ONES, AND NOW, I FEEL MORE THAN ANYTHING ASHAMED OF BEING AUSTRALIAN AND EVEN MORE SO OF BEING ‘SMALL’. THANKS TO THE POLITICIANS, SUICIDE NOW SEEMS EVEN MORE ATTRACTIVE. I DONT WANT FAKE BOOBS. I SURE AS HELL WONT BE PRESSURED INTO IT EITHER. I AM NOT DISGUSTING AND MY BOYFRIEND SURE AS HELL IS NOT A SICKO PEDOHPILE. WTF IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD? NATURAL CAN NO LONGER BE SEEN AS SEXY? SOMEHOW NATURAL HAS BECOME THE ENEMY TO EVERY WOMAN. I DONT WANT MY DAUGHTER TO GROW UP IN THIS SHITHOLE COUNTRY IF THATS THE WAY WE ARE TO BE SEEN AND TREATED. THIS HAS MADE ME FEEL LIKE IM SOME MASSIVE GENETIC SCREWUP. I HOPE THEY (POLITICIANS) ALL HAVE THEIR DICKS FALL OFF IN THE MOST PAINFUL AND ASHAMING WAY.
By B-CUP GODDESS on Jan 28, 2010
It says “in a way that is likely to cause offence to a reasonable adult” – This is my only hope that they’re just talking about small chested women who are intentionally depicted as children. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I really hope that’s all it is because I’ll be damned if I’m going to acknowledge some shitheads suggesting that I’m not a grown woman!
If that’s not the case and all women with small chests are considered out, then I say, what do you want me to do to get respect? Shall I rewrite my childhood of starvation? Should I go back and “fix” my gene line? I’ve had ENOUGH of feeling like less than a woman just because I’m small, I deserve to feel normal because it’s not THAT damned abnormal – not to mention abnormalties ARE NORMAL. My boyfriend is not a pedophile, some people actually understand that not every adult has DD cups. Media screws you up, I’m still not even sure what size is average, seems to be a lot smaller than I believe.
By Kimberly on Jan 28, 2010
Australian Sex Party?
Sounds fun… where do I get an invitation?
By Dave on Jan 28, 2010
Australia is the worlds shithole. First the Josef Fritzel guy rapes his daughter for 25 years, now the nazi government discriminates against delicious flat chests. I hope a terrorist somehow gets a nuke in there and takes them out
By hambone on Jan 28, 2010
My partner is now the ‘P’ word apparently given my low level of breast greatness, but I would like to go there and say that I am also waxed which may be considered ‘P’ Preference too. I am also 5ft which is about the height of an average 12 year old. Maybe I should stop before someone reads this and gets the idea to ban more!
By L on Jan 28, 2010
If we banned everyone with small organs, wouldn’t a number of politicians fall under the banned category due to having very small brains!
By Devz on Jan 28, 2010
Well, there goes my hopes of being an Australian porn star.
It’s a little more alarming than that, though. If this lawmaking represents an accurately changing public perception, how long am I going to be able to appear in public without being considered an obscene sex act? I’ll be forced to get breast implants, with attendant brasseries and diminished comfort and quality of life. I liked my small breasts. They made me happy.
By Jenny Creed on Jan 28, 2010
There is a difference between small and only just developing..
By Samantha on Jan 28, 2010
Small breasted woman takes picture of herself. Preferibly woman of, say, 50 years of age.
Small breasted woman sends pics to media and to cops.
Hilarity ensues.
By Idea on Jan 28, 2010
@ Josh
So damn true buddy.
I live in Australia, and it’s just getting more and more ridiculous. The police force has some mega issues, new, increasingly ridiculous laws are passed everyday – I’m just waiting for the Labor Government “Big Brother Scheme”.
You now need 3-4 years of intensive training before you can drive fully independantly, if someone uses too many capitals on the internet you can have them arrested, and now your sexual preferences or mere body type are unsatisfactory.
What sort of softcore yet iron-curtained country is this becoming?
By Mort on Jan 28, 2010
Give it two years, this will be the new age. Movies and other age-related things won’t have any connection to the chronological age of ones citizenship but instead their various ‘part’ size. “Oh, sorry, your package/breasts are too small. This movie will pervert your innocent mind”.
Good thing we copy America, not usually the other way around- smaller population, less violent riots.
By Joshua on Jan 28, 2010
I fed two babies for three years each with barely an ‘A’ cup…
By Samantha on Jan 28, 2010
Holy shit
By God on Jan 28, 2010
In response to Flabbergasted’s post:
… And female ejaculation is not urine. Urine doesn’t come from the vagina, just FYI. I guess Australia doesn’t understand how the female human body works.
By Flabbergasted on Jan 28, 2010
A female ejaculation doesn’t come from the vagina either!!! It comes from the urethra, but its still not urine, he/she had that right. so… I guess they don’t understand how the female body works either!!
By Weasky on Jan 28, 2010
so lets see..
what are they stopping exactly?..
what exactly are they saying?..
that because i have F breasts i am an classed as adult?..
last time i checked i was 17..
this is a f@#$ing outrage..
while there at it why not ban XXX waxes ( they depict juvenility )
or ban school girl outfits
or the goddamn rest of the list that depicts it..
i dont like nudity on tv or whatever but honestly id rather see little breasts then big..
its sexist to women and i believe even a male would admit that..
one has a right to like little ADULT breasts, it doesnt mean you are sick minded..
women in australia are already body conscious, feeling like they dont live up to the plate because its depicted that all aussies “skinny bikini models”
some of us may be but it doesnt mean that the rest cant be just as they want and or feel comfortable with being.
whatever chauvinist pigs thought that this is a good idea should be publically disgraced and left naked in the street for all to spit on..
soon showing ankles will be illegal..
i am shocked and appauled and now am ashamed to call myself australian.
Welldone Australia you’ve done it again
-Thumbs Up-
By Munzie on Jan 28, 2010
Oh right. Better start packing my bags then, seeing Australia has now banned small breasts and I myself am permanently outfitted with them.
Geez Australia, can you make yourself look any dumber?
By Judith on Jan 28, 2010
As a small breasted woman I am outraged at this; it’s taken years for me to get over the insecurity I felt growing up for not having had large breasts, now the Federal Government is reinforcing my insecurity with my naturally, genetically determined size?
What about banning images of large breasts since there are 13 year olds out there with D cups.
Fricken hell Australian has gone mad.
By Rebecca on Jan 28, 2010
Legislation is irrelevant as everyone can get all they want by just routing their connection through a VPN.
Rudd’s mindless crap legislation based on his own fears, hangups ad sexual inadequacies, posing as censorship is WORTHLESS and 100% bypassable to any technically competent person.
Roll on the next federal election and goodbye to Rudd and his kind.
By Scotty on Jan 28, 2010
Hambone – you’re thinking of Austria.
By Si on Jan 28, 2010
I live in a country where small breasts are aloud. Does this make me a peadophille?
By Wislong on Jan 28, 2010
How’s madmen films going to go, with all the Anime.
Is it only unclothed?
By Rebecca on Jan 28, 2010
Time for a referendum indeed. This is not a Muslim country.
By Rebecca on Jan 28, 2010
From the banning female ejaculation link above:
“The Australian Classification Board has decided to ban any adult films that feature female ejaculation because they deem the liquid expelled during squirting to be urine.”
It has been scientifically proven that the female ejaculate is not urine. Where the f**k do they get off making up new science to ban their petty jealousies?
Let’s ban Darwinism in school while we’re at it.
By Rebecca on Jan 28, 2010
Without going into detail, female ejaculation is not urine.
What hope is there for this issue when the opposition leader describes virginity as a gift?
By ileum on Jan 28, 2010
What feeble mind came up with the idea of filtering on the basis of appearance rather than records etc.? Any porno company has to verify the age of its performers – how hard is that to confirm?
By Duke on Jan 28, 2010
I dont see how this helps protect children from anything?
Its just power hungry policitians feeding off their own negative energy.
How can they enforce this?
It is probably just a knee jerk reaction to perceived child porn to make it look like they are doing something – but whats the chance of it being enforced.
Whats the chance of them enforcing any of their laws.
How about targeting the real paedophiles and rapists and other criminals.
As for the female ejaculation – well – that just seems sexist, how can sperm be ok but lady juice not?
Some people need a serious reality check.
By Jade on Jan 28, 2010
What the HELL? Banning small breasts? That is ridiculous. Why not ban other stuff that depicts a ‘juvenile’ image, such as brazilian waxes and schoolgirl outfits?
Are Australian women ever going to be exposed to images of REAL women (small breasted, large breasted, saggy breasted) or do we just allow our government to decide what is ‘normal’?
This is just insulting.
By Erin on Jan 28, 2010
That laws are being made and enforced in a modern liberal democracy on top of this pre-Enlightenment level of violent ignorance (regarding the female ejaculation) and utter idontevenknowfuckingwhattedness (regarding the titties) is staggerring. The despotic moralism and censorship, honestly, less so. Could really happen anywhere, price of liberty eternal vigilance Jefferson etc.
But Australia has a massive population of educated and slutty young people of varying breast sizes (gender-permitting), who I would wager (extrapolating from Whistler, their shorelines and latitudes, and their consistent output of easygoing, hard-partying pieces of world-class ass) are a fair bit more likely to be familiar with female ejaculation than the industrialized world average. How the hell does either or both of these not trip hard the political lines such grubby chittering little men usually work safely inside of? I can certainly see the ban on female ejaculation getting through, as long as they left it unjustified beyond a vacuous “obscenity/for the children/etc.” thing, and didn’t try to argue it either doesn’t exist or is ‘abhorrent’. I’d think, or at least hope, that would get tripped them up.
And the small breasts thing? Perhaps my part of Canada is significantly more liberal relative to the outside world than I’d imagined, but I don’t generally consider myself a feminist. Yet keeping pace with the rising venom and stock righteous indignation I greet most accounts of frivolous censorship with was the absurdity of the foregone conclusion, that this is saying to Australian women: if you have smaller breasts then you are a child. If someone is sexually attracted to you, there’s something wrong with them.
Legislated self-esteem boosters like that will certainly help curb the prevalence of child exploitation which they were charged to fix.
By Adam on Jan 28, 2010
I’m 99% sure that if that shit happened in Vancouver, the hordes of stooped masturbators emerging squinting but defiant into their new revolutionary day would be trampled wheezing to the ground and lost among legions of Twat Parades and Pussy Posses forming up from every corner of the city, calling for firstborn sons and blood for the altars.
For their part, I almost need to reject that that these officials would sincerely push these two measures is terrifying. Instead, I submit they are laughable-bordering-on-adorable, and may inaugurate a fruitful golden age of replenished Australian stereotypes, and it would warm my heart to know that somewhere, in an office time forgot, backwards old white curmudgeons who don’t believe in the female orgasm and think “you must be this stacked to ride” is elegant and sustainable governance still have some vestigial power. I would be upset if someone didn’t set them up in a zoo and just sacked them.
By Adam on Jan 28, 2010
Anyone noticed an increased amount of censorship BS since rudd?
By pedophile on Jan 28, 2010
This is wrong in the most hilarious way considering with our day and age, some younger people look way older than they are and some older people look a lot younger. Not to mention breasts are one of the least accurate ways of determining age considering I haven’t been an A cup since I was about 13 and I’m not a big person. At about 15 I looked older than I do a lot of the time now and have friends who these days even are several years older than me and still less developed and without makeup look younger than I do with makeup. *Sigh* I guess some people never learn and others just want an excuse (any excuse) to shape things the way they want them. Good luck Australia – the age of the idiots is only just beginning.
By Sin on Jan 28, 2010
People people people,
We here at the ACB have spent vast resources in learning from the worlds best when it comes to censorship, sorry, classification.
Only last week we had a team implement techniques they brought back from libya.
And to settle an earlier argument;
small penis = ok
small shaved penis = pedoban
Hope this helps
ACB
By ACB Official on Jan 28, 2010
No example photo?
By Sergio on Jan 28, 2010
Methinks there should be a “small breasted women march” down the main thoroughfare in canberra (whatever that is)
From “moderately amused” in uk.
By ian on Jan 28, 2010
Who has the right to say if you APPEAR under 18? That can be taken way outta step to deliberately get someone in trouble
Never the less this is pure discrimination,
By dave on Jan 28, 2010
As the proud own of a pair of 8AA breasts, this is just insulting. Does this mean that my boyfriend, who has phots of me in the buff, is a purveyor of child porn just because my breasts appear to belong to someone under 18?
I get that we should ban certain things that depict people as being under 18 through the storyline etc, but banning things that have women who naturally have small breasts and look young is ridiculous.
By Belbo on Jan 28, 2010
All I can say is that if womenhood depends on a females breast size then this society is very very sick.
What about the WWII singer Edith Piaf, she was only 4′8″ and I would imagine she had only size A breasts if that. And yet she inspired millions.
Talking about WWII.
“The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as government is perceived as working for the benefit of children, the people happily will endure almost any curtailment of liberty”. Adolf Hitler
By RexAlan on Jan 28, 2010
I love small tiddies!!!! Australia is getting worse and worse.
By Titsman on Jan 28, 2010
You sickos out there, being attracted to fertile young WOMEN!
What’s wrong with you?!
By Diceh on Jan 28, 2010
Haha, what’s the next step? Banning movies with actors that have a small penis?
By Mario on Jan 28, 2010
Some people are stark raving mad. How can they advance to a point where they have any say in any public matter?
Political correctness should be banned and carry long jail sentences instead. Or better, these maniacs should be rolled in tar and feather and be run of the town.
Fascism takes on many shapes. ACB is one shape.
By Leif Knudsen on Jan 29, 2010
and what about convincing male crossdressers, they could look similar to a small breast woman, could it be illegal for a guy to show his chest?
By Anon on Jan 29, 2010
Here in Europe countries are lowering age of consent to age of 14 because researches and statistics shows pedos are not interested in them anymore as they are too old.
Australia is going in opposite direction while even saying that pedos are attracted by adults. I really doubt there are any scientific reasoning behind these claims.
By European on Jan 29, 2010
Ia it possible that these twisted judgments are rooted in religion?
By Concerned on Jan 29, 2010
@SI- You have been trolled
By hambone on Jan 29, 2010
You know, I’ve always wanted to visit Australia, and at a point in my life I actually gave serious considderation to going there to work for an extended period of time. But reading stories like this is quite frankly putting a serious dampener on my desire to go. Both in terms of living and working, as well as like a tourist.
I’m quite frankly shocked that something like this can seriously be happening in what I considdered to be a modern “western” country. One thing is coming down on child pornography, another is censoring regular porn and various other types of fetishes or regular sexual behaviour engaged in by concenting legal adults, be it in a professional or amateur “setting”.
I seriously hope that this ridiculous idiocy results in severe repercussions against the government of Australia, both from the Australian population, as well as from other governments around the world.
IMO this is an overt attack on the Australian people’s personal freedom, it’s antiquated censorship of the worst kind, and for the sake of the Australian people, I hope that anyone within the government that is seriously in favour of this crap gets kicked so far out of any place of influence that they disappear from history itself.
By CS on Jan 29, 2010
So according to Australia, I’m not an adult and my exes are all pedophiles. That’s funny because last time I checked, I was 20 years of age. Where’s the giant rack that I should have received when I turned 18?
By Copper on Jan 29, 2010
The decision to ban the depiction of smaller proportioned women because they may resemble a minor seems morally sound, but really does nothing more than feign morals and cause endangerment. How? Studies have shown a correlation between access to pornography and the number of rapes across many areas, which in essence means that people who find release in pornography are less likely to build up the sexual desire to commit to something such as rape.
Because you’re limiting pornography that depicts women who only appear to be minors, you’re removing that “release” from paedophiles themselves. Because these paedophiles do not get the adequate release they seek from pornographic materials, they may be more prone to seek that release from actual children.
What you’re doing is bringing endangerment to actual children on the streets and in the homes of your country. So, which is more important to you, ACB? Not letting *adult* women consent to sexual activities because people “might be offended by the way they look,” or the safety of your children?
How dare you endanger the children of your country because of the way some *adult* women look.
By S. R. M. DeHart on Jan 29, 2010
Australia’s a lovely place and the people there are no more crazy than anywhere else in the world, but I have to say the government there is a joke. They’ll probably regulate small penises next.
By Rick on Jan 29, 2010
Hahahahaha… I thought ppl from Australia suppose to be smarter than this… Well at least it’s a prove that there are always some retards in every society
By WUT on Jan 29, 2010
You guys have to keep in mind that unless the opposition support this filter, it’s going no where. If they do support it then an election isn’t going to get rid of it, nothing is, time to just skip the country.
By Rod Rye on Jan 29, 2010
Okay, when did the Classification Board get infiltrated by ultra-conservatives? These people are supposed to be representatives of mainstream Australia, but I cannot see anything mainstream in this.
So does this mean that women who want to act in porn have to get implants if they are a little on the small side? What message does this send to women about what is an acceptable female form?
By Michael on Jan 29, 2010
I support this. I hate small tits. Viva la actual-mature-adult-women!
By Babby on Jan 29, 2010
So, as a professional fetish model with small breasts, a youthful appearance, and the ability to ejaculate during orgasm- I am banned from Australia?
Oh dear. Does this apply to my bondage work, my non-genital oriented fetish work, my genital-oriented fetish and Domme/sub work as well, or JUST to my topless or squirting work? Are my pictures allowed to be viewed- because at a US 34A cup, I do indeed have small breasts- am I allowed to show them to my Aussie friends wrapped in latex or rope?
To the ACB: I may have what strippers here classify as “nipples on a rib” but I am also a strong, steady woman, mother of three, and well over the age of majority. My genetic makeup that gave me a slender body, small tits and a much younger than actual age appearance do NOT relegate into the ranks of the unclean.
I pity the filthy and depraved minds that take the natural beauty of women like myself and make it into a shameful thing. Just because you see small breasts and have an overwhelming urge o sodomize and assault children doesn’t mean the rest of the normal, healthy sexual population shares your perversions.
By Renee Blaine, The Original Sin on Jan 29, 2010
I think that if they ban small breasts they should ban shaved genitals too. I think shaved genitals can lead to paedophilic tendencies. In fact, all shaving of body hair alludes to childhood and is therefore of a paedophilic perverted nature.
By John Dower on Jan 29, 2010
I hope everyone is sending an angry email to the ACB for their sexism and discrimination. We cannot let them get away with this.
By Sam on Jan 29, 2010
For the first time in 2010 I’m proud to be an American. This is exactly the sort of thing our sexually repressed government has been dealing us for years and this time IT WASN’T US! Thank you Australian Government for restoring my faith in the possibility that there might one day be an international coalition of elected officials who have nothing worthwhile to do with their time and my tax dollars. NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
By Zoomie on Jan 29, 2010
If its taboo, it will be desired. Thus the ban will have the opposite effect to that which it intends. *sigh*
By Phil on Jan 29, 2010
As an Australian who has been long been interested in the politics of human sexuality and censorship in my country, I am not surprised by the reactionary classification of this material. I am sure that it will be no surprise to hear, for example, that there is plenty of anecdotal evidence of young women feeling that their genitalia is abnormal, due to the fact that the only depictions that they can access, in men’s magazines, have been atered and retouched to suit the arbitrary classification standards. This is one more piece of evidence that the whole classifactory system needs to be replaced.
What I hate, further, as a result of the ban of small breasts is the instant objectification of women on the basis of breast size alone. That goes against everything I stand.
By Phillip A. Ellis on Jan 29, 2010
the message is clear. they don’t want your women to love their natural bodies. they want them to get fake boobs like in trannie culture. they don’t want you to have daughters. this is a depopulation scheme.
but to be a little more serious, what do you expect from silly statists?
By Juan Carlos on Jan 29, 2010
Wow. Just wow.
Y’know, Hitler said much the same thing about the rules being “for the children” back when he was over in Germany, destroying much of Europe in his path and killing off Jews by the thousands daily. So does that mean Aussies need to get jackboots, Nazi uniforms, and scream out ‘Sieg heil’ whenever one of the politicians go up for a speech?
Way to go, Australia. You have just lost The Game. Epicly.
Sexism, paranoia, and the media’s view of what a woman should look like win again. ‘Round and round we go, where do we stop? Hell. I dunno.
–Otaku G
By Otaku G on Jan 29, 2010
Renee, you sound like the Classification Board’s worst nightmare. Beyond the thinness, small breasts and squirting, you engage in fetishes which the almighty “guidelines” state are obscene – BDSM and spanking. If you like a little bit of wax dripping, forget it. Same goes for piercing.
Never mind that you’re a consenting adult who willingly performs these things as part of your sexual repertoire. The Board bans depictions of those things as being “offensive to reasonable adults”. Your site would be blocked by the proposed filter.
And won’t we all feel so much safer and protected then?
By Ms Naughty on Jan 29, 2010
Its idiot politicians like these twits who make me happy that I am a gun owner. What about women who have had breast cancer and had a masectomy? Are they going to ban them? Tell them their breasts are not big enough? The worst thing about this corporate nanny state is the retard politicians who don’t stop for a minute to think about the unintented consequences of every stupid law/rule/regulation they come up with so more of their inbred relatives can get a job. Want to stop people from touching children sexually? Let the parents of those children decide on the punishment, not a court.
By TonyH on Jan 29, 2010
Is there enough outrage in Australia that small-minded politicians could be voted out? Just wondering.
By sourdough on Jan 29, 2010
Doesn’t Australia have nude beaches? Will small breasted women be banned from those beaches as well?
By Muhr on Jan 29, 2010
I’m not an Australian anymore, but I’m ashamed that I was born in such a country.
Although my breasts are at a B size (not by very much), I pity the women who have to suffer the insecurities that the government had just imposed on them. It is unjust and sexist.
There should be a petition running. I would not stand for such stupidity, especially when the year’s just started.
By ET on Jan 29, 2010
My fellow girlfriend has small breasts. She is almost twenty. She does not even look like she could come CLOSE to passing as a juvenile. When I was underage, I had a hefty chest. I do not believe that chest size has anything remotely close to how old you look. It just shows how far panic will spread if whispered into the right ears.
As for female ejaculation, this just goes unsaid. Please read up on your anatomy and health lessons. This is embarrassing that the United States knows more about this than the Parliament, and we’re practically neighbors.
By GayInUSA on Jan 29, 2010
Hey HAMBONE. that Fritzel dude was in Austria
not Australia…..quite a different place dickhead.
By HAMBONE'S A LITTLE CONFUSED on Jan 29, 2010
I’m getting out of this country before things get out of hand, its starting to look a little too star wars-eqsue imperialistic around here. Obviously child pornography is an issue, but this is just plain ridiculous. The Australian government are starting to make the KGB look like a child care centre in terms of caring for their people. All I know is I don’t want to be here when the people’s revolution begins and the bullets start flying, lucky we have strict gun laws or I’d be gone already.
On a slightly different note, I’d like to point out the flaw in suggesting that these regulations be sexist quickly. They’re banning porn of people who look like children, not porn of women who look like children, if it so happens that women more easily fall into the category of ‘looking like children’ then that is more a technicality than much else.
By William on Jan 29, 2010
surely this is ridiculous, does this mean if i get a girlfriend and she happens to be a “squirter” in that she has the natural function of the female ejaculation, i am then supposed to be abhorred by her? Isnt that like saying that people with double joints are Disgusting? or that a guy who’s penis bends left is a freak and unworthy of our sight?
when will the government just give up deciding what is right and wrong in all things outside of criminal law?
By Broken on Jan 29, 2010
They’re banning porn of people who look like children, not porn of women who look like children, if it so happens that women more easily fall into the category of ‘looking like children’ then that is more a technicality than much else.
By William on Jan 29, 2010
What about children that look like adult women? There are an increasing number of children of 13-17 that look like they’re in their 20s. Taller, larger breasted… If children are looking like adults earlier in their lives, then it’s not unreasonable that adults will be increasingly looking similar to children as well.
By Sansha on Jan 29, 2010
OH SHIT GUYS.
I’m an A-cup. Who cares that I’ve just hit the second decade of my now Government-controlled existence? In the Government’s eyes, I’m now jailbait. SHIT. I APOLOGISE TO ANY OF THE THREE MEN I’VE EVER SLEPT WITH SINCE LOST MY VIRGINITY AT EIGHTEEN, I’VE MADE YOU ALL PAEDOPHILES.
Anyone want to move to Canada with me?
By Desu on Jan 29, 2010
Isn’t about time for the U.K. to come down there to test some more of their nukes?
Maybe they could park your idiot politicians
out in the desert under them when they set them off. Oh that’s right the cockroaches will be the only things to survive. Oops… I just said a dirty word in Australia. Grow up a**holes, I like small titties!!!
By Sir Laffs-a-Lott on Jan 29, 2010
The reason child pornography is banned is because of things such as child abuse and children not being able to make decisions in these matters for themselves, it has nothing to do with deterring paedophiles. being a paedophile is not illegal, or even bad. its just another sexual preference no more “wrong” or “right” than homosexuality, so why would people try to take action against them, instead of against child abuse?
By Hamish on Jan 29, 2010
Surely this can not be construed as pedophilia, by definition, where growth of breasts has occurred at all, onset of puberty has commenced and therefore, we are actually talking about pederasty, not pedophilia, which specifically relates to pre-pubescent children. Sure, given an age of consent of 16 or 18, depending on the laws of the state or terrtory, an offence may be involved, but it is more likely to be of the “minor under the age of 16″ than the “minor under the age of 13″ type.A minimum age of 18 applies for models in pornographic images, but those first two reflect a recognition of the difference between pederasty and pedophilia. I don’t think one is considered to be any less culpable or less serious than the other, as indicated by the guidance for judges, in terms of penalty units available, but the original legislators obviously felt a need for precision, which reflects the nature of the pathology of offenders.An exception comes to mind, where early onset of puberty forms part of a syndrome, as in progeria, but this, I understand, is extremely rare.The people behind this change of policy are apparently thinking about the thin end of the wedge, rather than the fat end.
By Edward on Jan 29, 2010
Everyone should go file a discrimination complaint against the Australian Classification Board. you can find all the details here
http://www.hreoc.gov.au/complaints_information/index.html
By Gary on Jan 29, 2010
Switzerland has a strange law that goes into the same direction: “bodily fluids” are forbidden in porn because it is deemed untasteful. How strange that the state can interfere in matters of taste. It has been determined by court that semen is not a bodily fluid.
So it is allowed to have porn with puking in it but not with a bit of pee. Quite absurd.
By Peter Haber on Jan 29, 2010
This is just silly. In adult films it shouldn’t matter about the size of the womens breasts. Helen Boen-carter or whatever her name is had a sex scene in that movie “Fight Club” before she had her breast enhancements. And there was no problem with that.
In some ways this is encouraging breast enhancements for actresses who want to participate in these kind of movies, to broaden their horizon and whatnot.
And honestly, even if pedophiles DO for some weird reason look at small breasts and relate them to children, isn’t this so much better than them actually looking at CHILDREN???
And the urine thing is ridiculous. It doesn’t even deserve a comment. I cannot imagine anyone supporting this.
By Lilli on Jan 29, 2010
Oh you, aussies…. LOL
By orang indo on Jan 29, 2010
I’m not worried about women who feel themselves discriminated or about porn industry. This law is just a big joke and will have no effect in anything. As somebody already said, filters are 100% bypassable to anyone who wishes so and it is impossible to enforce and to supervise this kind of law.
What I’m worried about is this kind of development in legislation. What are the real motives behind such a ridiculous decisions? This isn’t helping the children that are being abused every day. Contrarily censorship is making it easier for pedos to act behind the filtering curtain and people think that government is doing something and fighting against pedophilia. Out of sight, out of mind as we use to say. Instead of funding the crime investigators who try to catch these guys who abuse children and create child porn they spend money to build a curtain in front of big populations so that they don’t accidently see what’s really going on. Makes me think how long roots this child porn industry has and how up in government it might lead.
I surely hope this is just about ignorance of computer’s and network’s mechanisms and how they work and a gap between generations who still lead the country and those who are about to lead the counrty in few years, finally.
By Fin-p-bear on Jan 29, 2010
I see why they were doing it, because without documentation, it’s hard to tell ona video or a photograph how old someone is. I understand that. They are trying to keep children out of the porn industry.
But to take someone’s rights away when they are concenting adults, to PREVENT something that you couldn’t tell without that documentation I meantioned before (young girls with larger chests), is just stupidity. You cant take away right to prevent precieved unfounded dangers.
By Aly on Jan 30, 2010
I see why they were doing it, because without documentation, it’s hard to tell on a video or a photograph how old someone is. I understand that. They are trying to keep children out of the porn industry.
But to take someone’s rights away when they are concenting adults, to PREVENT something that you couldn’t tell without that documentation I meantioned before (young girls with larger chests), is just stupidity. You cant take away rights to prevent precieved unfounded dangers. Its ludacris.
Not only that, now woman with small breasts are now deemed to be of unconcenting age, and have to be protected from others, because they are now being viewed as not ugly, but immature. My heart goes out to these women, and to the large breasted young girls, because I am sure they get unwanted attention from older men. Women already struggle with this sensitive issue… why is the governtment rubbing salt and lemon juice into the already sore wounds?
Hrm… maybe this Rudd character is in leauge with the plastic surgeons board??
Oh, and I love the idea of a small breasted march… with large breasted women marchng right beind them them.
By Aly on Jan 30, 2010
OK, it is decided then…. We ban small penises!!!!! We wouldn’t want to get all the Catholic Priests worked up thinking about mass and “special counseling” now would we??!?!?! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!
BAN SMALL PENISES NOW!!!!!
* This it what is wrong with societies today *
By Jon Dowe on Jan 30, 2010
So, at the rate things are going, if your 30 year old wife wears her hair in pigtails, licks a lollipop, or chews bubble gum, you are in big trouble!!
Whats going on Australia? You have completely lost control of your government.
By Pete on Jan 30, 2010
The problem with this is so many men are already convinced that the women they see in porn are real or normal and expect their girlfriends to be the same. Many of them have breast enlargements or other plastic surgery. This would only make the problem worse by removing any women with natural breasts.
By anne on Jan 30, 2010
The fact that female ejaculation is considered “a form of urination” is fucking absurd. Just because sperm and piss come out of the same hole doesnt mean they’re the same! Just shows how unbelievably ignorant these people are (and that they’ve never been good enough to make a female ejaculate). Because once you’ve witnessed it… you surely know it isnt urine.
By julia on Jan 30, 2010
and just to comment on someone elses comment “being a paedophile is not illegal, or even bad. its just another sexual preference no more “wrong” or “right” than homosexuality, so why would people try to take action against them, instead of against child abuse?”
There is a BIG difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. The latter is unacceptable and surely more “wrong.”
By julia on Jan 30, 2010
“The decision to ban the depiction of smaller proportioned women because they may resemble a minor seems morally sound”
@Copper I know you later said that this was crap. But what horrible logic in general probably thought up by some ACB christian zealot.
Whoever’s idea it was to propose this kind of censorship couldn’t have considered the ramifications. Like the millions of petite women with gorgeous small breasts that are feeling threatened and alienated right now. For the australian government to have the gall to say what features are good and bad in a woman (among how old the person looks) is extremely heavy a weight on them.
What’s even worse is that this is all left up to interpretation. Right now it’s all about censorship of young looking 18+ year old women who have small breasts. If everything is left up to interpretation, then only re-interpretation will happen.
Next thing you know 18+ year old women who look young and have big breasts will be censored. Who’s to stop interpretation for what’s allowed in porn that’s effectively re-designing what the perfect adult woman is in australia?
I’m american and i find this outrageous. This is discrimination against women of specific physical features and looks. This simply i have the feeling wont fly at all in australia. Women have many different types of beauty, but someone up high had to discriminate against one of them for no good reason.
We live in the generation of the thought police.
By shamil on Jan 30, 2010
This censorship is ridiculous. Surely this will force adults in the erotic industry to have breast enlargement. The plastic surgeons must be rubbing their hands together.
By Busybee on Jan 30, 2010
AUSFAILIA.
By Christina on Jan 30, 2010
Okay guys, do not get me wrong. This is immensely fucked up its just not fucked up in the way many of you think it is. Under federal law the RC classification is essentially just another classification. If you are over 18 you are allowed to buy it. It is essentially meant as a warning that you may find the content very offensive. And some people find flat chested women offensive, these people need help. However the Australian government hasn’t banned anything, it’s just that some of the state governments do not allow the sale of RC materials.
By Hugh on Jan 30, 2010
@Hambone – get it right, Josef Fritzel was NOT Australian. He was AUSTRIAN. There IS a difference.
dumbass.
By getitright on Jan 30, 2010
Oh and Sir Laffs-a-Lott. Please don’t think the majority of Australians are like this. And also, please DO nuke Canberra, no-one would miss it. It’s a terrible place full of terrible people.
By Hugh on Jan 30, 2010
Uhh, I am to gobsmacked to post at great lenght, I think everyone here has pretty much said it; just, wtf is wrong with the world?? Civil liberties? Bah! Who needs them! This is attrocious.
I have 14 DD boobs, and I definitely do not see that being the norm, or the most attractive form of breats. Small breast are just as beautiful, if not more; less chance of stretch marks and sagging after all.
And to add to this, what about the miriad of teenage models we see on billboards, tv and magazine ads etc? These actually ARE children, posing for all sorts of products, and thee they are, dolled up looking like god knows what. Why is this okay, to parade UNDERAGE girls in the media, but in a consenting environment like the adult entertainment industry, ADULTS that may LOOK like they are children based SOLEY on their chest size is not okay?
Oh, and to the dude that said Australians are messed up because of Jospeh Fritzel, sorry to disapoint, but that was AUSTRIA mate…it’s in Europe, not here. And it’s not Aussies with the issue, as many of these comments reflect, it’s our stupid Government. Kevin 11? I think not.
By Lily on Jan 30, 2010
Scotty said, “Roll on the next federal election and goodbye to Rudd and his kind.”
Then what, Scotty? Tony Abbott enforcing all girls to remain virgins until they are married and are able to give a great ‘gift’ to the new husband?
Since the 2 MPs who introduced this into the parliament are from the conservative side, National Party and Liberal party, you can’t blame this one on Rudd.
The Classifications board acts independently from the government; unfortunately the members are appointed by the parliament, and the previous government probably appointed most of the current mob.
By Sean Burns on Jan 30, 2010
hrmm that dumb…. i’m going to masturbate to depictions of small breast right now!!!
By dpatriarch 0f DA on Jan 30, 2010
WTF!!!!!!! dont ban small breasts u f***** sexist pigs… what f***** BS!!!! and agreed Busybee.
By Rory on Jan 30, 2010
In response to the comment posted by Hamish on the 29th January 2010, I apologize if I have misunderstood. Perhaps you intended to be ironic.
I concede that where unacted upon, paedophilia is not in itself illegal. But it seems to be in the nature of paedophiles to act on the motivation. So much so that recidivism rates are so high as to be almost inevitable. The most effective rehabilitation programmes claim to be able to reduce re-offence rates to around 73 or 74%. In the absence of intervention re-offence rates are about 85% wthin in two years. And there is a question of reporting. Child sex offenders are innately deceptive.As to to your assertion that paedophilia is as legitimate a sexual preference as any other, I couldn’t possibly agree. It is wrong, because it is harmful to another person. I hope that there can be some consensus on this point.
By Edward on Jan 30, 2010
Pardon the typos.
By Edward on Jan 30, 2010
This is totally fucking ridiculous. I’ve always hated the government and now this is making me hate them even more. What a fucking stupid thing to enforce. Makes me also ashamed to be an Aussie!
By thegrambauer on Jan 30, 2010
There goes the midget porn.
By Doug on Jan 30, 2010
Glad to know so many people support us smaller adult women. It makes me feel ok about our society realistically. However I am not ok with this censorship- discriminating bullshit and I know there will be a huge backlash if this crap goes through. It’s time Australia made itself a little more heard. Heard by the people for once not the damn media and governments.
By B-CUP GODDESS on Feb 1, 2010
B-CUP GODDESS: I agree with you. I had a girlfriend once who wasn’t a large breasted woman and she was the most wonderful girlfriend I’ve had. The most beautiful laughter, her smile, her eyes, personality, kindness, everything about her was perfect in my eyes. Her breast size didn’t even factor in my love for her at the time. It’s totally bullshit and disgusting what the government is trying to enforce.
By thegrambauer on Feb 1, 2010
Wow. That’s just… what? Small breasts = CP? I’m glad I don’t live in Australia.
By Futanari Damacy on Feb 1, 2010
What next? Will Australian Customs provide compulsory bra inserts to all modestly-endowed women entering the country?
It sounds like y’all need to throw a few politicians’ careers on the barbie.
By Kid Charlemagne on Feb 1, 2010
*Cries and dies a little inside*
Why.. Why?!
Please, people in other countries, don’t take this as being an indication of what average Australians are like. We’re not this narrow minded, honest!
I know Australians give the US a lot of crap for invading other countries but.. erm.. can you come invade our government? Just Canberra. Warn us when you’re coming, everyone will get out and we’ll not tell the politicians. You can just send all your troops that have been eager for a good battle and let them go nuts.
Spread lots of “democracy” all over the place.
By Some Australian on Feb 2, 2010
This is a war on DFCs, it cannot be lost!
By Tyciol on Feb 2, 2010
I also would like to know just who decides what looks less than 18 to them? I know 30 and 40 year old Asian women that still look 16 to me even though I know better because I know them personally. Would a group of Asian men on that panel make better “less than 18″ age choices than say a group of 60 and 70 year old white people or black people? Everyone’s perceptions of what looks less than 18 is different. Do we now have to choose our politicians by race because there perceptions might better protect us from our own laws? This stuff is just getting way out of hand. I had a 10 year old daughter that was so well endowed she was actually chosen to model bikinis for budweiser for a magazine ad until they realized she was only 10 and not 18. I as a parent was beating men off her with a stick for god sake she really looked much older than she was with the right hairstyle, clothing and makeup. The only thing that changed about her from 10 to 18 is 2 inches in height. It’s a scary thought at just who might be sitting there making these decisions and what we may have to resort to to keep the decisions unbiased by opinion.
By Jc on Feb 2, 2010
WOW!!! You mean there’s an english-speaking country that’s even more backwards about sexual issues than America???
AMAZING!!!
By Christian on Feb 3, 2010
I saw the article title on an unrelated google search and I honestly thought it was a joke because it just sounds so ridiculous.
Then I realized the joke’s on me because I have to suffer these narrow minded fools interference in my life.
By JC Too on Feb 3, 2010
My girlfriend has small breasts, and I have many nude pics of her on my phone. If I got stopped in the street and police looked at my phone, does that mean I would get charged for having child pornography, even though my girl is 20?
I can just see in the short future.
“Hi, I’ve come for my licence or proof of age card. Here’s my birth certificate proving that I am of age.”
“Sorry, your breasts are too small. I can’t give you your ID.”
I can only wonder how far backwards our society can go before the politicians realise what they are doing, and fix it.
Ah, we can only hope.
By Lucien Draay on Feb 4, 2010
Does it work in reverse? Like do younger girls who look older stop being considered as children? Is it now okay for us to appear in pornography or for pedophiles to like us?
I’m 14 and I have a more womanly figure than most. I wear a D cup bra, I have a small waist and round and wide hips but I’m not overweight or anything. If I was taller than I could pass off as being around 18. People online who only see my facebook photo without knowing my height actually don’t believe my age.
Does this mean that random old men can now like me sexually? Does mean that it’s okay for someone to take an erotic photo of me and share it with the world?
And are they also banning men with small penises? Or people with less body hair than average? Or is it just small breasted women?
Either way, this is sexist, discriminative and abominably disgusting!!!
By Tara The Awsumest on Feb 4, 2010
Bah, there’s nothing wrong with small breasted women. Some like em big, others like em small. Its a perfectly valid preference. It hardly indicates or promotes latent pedophilia or homosexuality. Some, like my self, find it incredibly sleek, sporty, and feminine. And more unique than the mainstream bigger is better silicone monsters. Like a previous author said, its times like these I am ashamed to be Australian, to live under such backwards ruling, spouting from dusty old rooms full of prudes who just don’t have a clue about life and reality. I’ve always had pride in Australia having a relative degree of freedom, but this is stupidity. I hope we dont turn into a country with oversensetive censorship laws like some of our Asian brothers, so that its impossible to enjoy anything, and everything is just softened and wrapped in bubblewrap because the government says we are not adult enough to handle anything
By Trents on Feb 4, 2010
And on the same line of reasoning they should ban depictions of women who remove hair from their legs, armpits and genital area. Because, obviously, that is a depiction of prepubescence… Henceforth only hairy ladies shall be deemed morally acceptable.
By Trents on Feb 4, 2010
Soon in Australia only clips showing sex in the misssionary position will be allowed, of course with genitals blurried out.
By mark on Feb 4, 2010
This is so stupid and sexist. That also puts down all the small breasted adults out there. Small breast are not the issue here its children. you shouldnt ban adult woman from doing what they want. What about children with big breast? are you going to allow then to start making porn? you are not thinking of the children your only thinking of big breast. how about making a law about making everyone with big breast get reductions? would that be fair. stop children from being in porn. dont make other people have to deal with problems such as small breast. i bet there will be a big raise in breast implants just because of your stupidity. sexist
By William on Feb 4, 2010
Clearly I’m the worst kind of pervert then
This law hits my two big kinks.
I lust for the strong boyish look; androgynous, small breasted, fit, cute looking women do it for me. The Kieara Knightly / Juliette Lewis sort of thing. I’ve never found bigger boobs a turn on.
The other is and urination – just into it.
So this law make the two types of porn that I view as part of a healthy adult sexuality illegal.
This is stunning
By unique_stephen on Feb 4, 2010
All men have childlike breasts. By the same reason, images of topless men must be banned.
This ruling appears to be childlike too.
By Jack Jones on Feb 5, 2010
@Tara The Awsumest: if you are 14 then pedophiles won’t like you because you are already too old (for them). That’s why a lot of European countries have age of consent at 14 and some others lowered it to 14 recently.
By European on Feb 6, 2010
Glad i dont live in Australia. What a crap country.
By Bling on Feb 7, 2010
After seeing this, I went out and spent the next few hours appreciating pornography of lesser endowed women and I plan to spend some time observing female ejaculation or squirting too; who knows? the weak spined idiots of the british government might follow this ludicrous example.
I seriously doubt I will visit Australia any time soon. I have no interest in visiting countries where they over regulate things; the entire middle east, China and now Australia. Ahh well; Japan, here I come!
By That handsome devil on Feb 7, 2010
Feminists and conservatives are simply jealous that men tend to like younger women. Men are hardwired to be most attracted to females who are not too far removed from puberty, which would include many females who are under age 18. This is not pedophilia, but simply normal.
Lets face it, if the feminists had their way they would ban all pornography and raise the sexual age-of-consent to 25, and define it as pedophilia for a man to even look at any woman below this age.
Oh, and small penises are already de facto “banned” from porn and socially degraded everywhere. Men – especially those who lack alpha characteristics such as a big penis – are severely looked down upon in our wonderfully “equal” feminist society, where women are a protected/privileged class and men are animals. Yay for equality.
By kman92 on Feb 9, 2010
Why stop there? Just kill off all women and we wont have any child pornography issue at all.
By lolaustralia on Feb 10, 2010
WHAT’S THE MATTER WITH YOU AUSSIES? You’re pulling an America and I feel sorry for you. And I’m American. I mean it’s your country that turned me on to John Safran:
http://twitter.com/drunk_economist/statuses/8894236693
I can only conclude that you’re against Japanese porn, where MOST of the girls are A to B cup.
Oh, and you hate Saki Otsuka too? Man. Your entire country needs to get laid. (Saki Otsuka, aka the ‘Queen of Squirt’).
That’s all I have to say.. don’t be like my country.
Drunky out.
By Drunken Economist on Feb 10, 2010
Like, WTF?!? The fluid which is produced while squirting, is in no way related to urine. How can they even think that?
And how about small-breasted porn actresses? Do they need to get a boob-job, in order to stay employed?
Just sick, f*ck the Aussie gov!
By gewoonjay on Feb 10, 2010
If any of y’allstralians want to emigrate, I’ve got a small town with lots of perfectly good empty houses and lots of land in America’s upper midwest if you don’t mind the cold and the lack of anything to do. Bring your boobs with you, big boobs, small boobs, medium boobs, manboobs and so on. This place could use a population injection and something for the locals to talk about other than me or high school basketball games from the Kennedy Administration.
By Beatarro on Feb 12, 2010
This is awesome. Hopefully all females with small breasts will be arrested for showing anything under a D-cup. Same with any men with small penises should be arrested for child porn.
The good thing is now those hot 11 year old girls with big knockers can appear in porn no problem. Just stop checking ID’s and start measuring breast size.
Love how people get upset over the details but fail to realize every aspect of your lives are either controlled or attempting to be controlled by the same globalelitists in power who are threatened any chance the general public starts having too much fun.
You are NOT allowed to have fun, unless of course your fun is regulated by the government and profited-off of by the private capitalist monopoly cartels.
By Master on Feb 13, 2010
Some food for thought!
This country needs to take a deep breath and pull it’s head out of it’s ass. Every day we see movies, dvd’s and other such content depicting rape and horrific murders of both children, (well not rape of children but deffinately murder) and adults. Are we saying that this is quite acceptable viewing compared to small A cup breasts. I mean really, this is a joke. If the person has consented to being naked, and is of legal age, then their is no crime is there. They are really making a law of taste. Deffinately “thought crime”. It’s why books like 1984 were written so that we could learn form things like this. I feel our government is imposing its views on our society more and more every day. “A” cup breasts are illegal, but depicted murder is well within the taste of the politicians,……hahahahaha. wake up and have a look at yourselves. And what an insult to all the beautiful women who have A cup breasts. Now they are consided not tasteful to the general public. We bang on about how terrible it is that the fasion world is setting terrible standards by creating an unrealistic image of the average women. Now the average women according to our politicians must be a B cup or better still a C cup. How are these poor A cuppers supposed to feel about this new big booby image. Now they have to all get boob jobs to be a little more tasteful to the public. (tongue and cheek). My fiance is an A cup. come and arrest me for looking at them. hahahha….idiots!!!!! I cant believe female ejaculation, small boobs are not tastefull. where are we, the 18th centuary? its a natural part of life.
By Chad on Feb 13, 2010
Banning small breasted porn may actually increase illegal downloading of child pornography not reduce it. In my opinion men, or women, who enjoy the petite adult figure and enjoy to look at videos such as “itty bitty titty” and so forth will no longer be able to access this material legally. It is then that they will go to underground sites and search for small breasts which my inadvertently lead them to some underage images. I love small breasts they are so much nicer than huge silicone filled breasts which end up sagging and do more long term harm to the woman. Does my preference make me a pedo?
The governmet is being totally idiotic in making this decision to censor what we can enjoy in the privacy of our own homes. It’s like saying carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas so we all better stop breathing because we exhale carbon dioxide.
And on the female ejaculation, I believe that it’s one of the sexiest images ever. To see a woman have an orgasm so powerful that she squirts ejaculate is an immense turn on. How dare we show men ejaculating and not be able to show women ejaculating! So if you are a female with small breasts who squirts when she has an orgasm then this government has just said “fuck you”. We need to turn this around because women like this are already insecure about their image and/or sexual function and they should be made to feel accepted and natural.
And besided whats wrong with golden showers anyway, it hasn’t been proven as harmful in any way has it. And what people want to do or watch in the privacy of their own homes should be nove of the governments business!
And to that idiot Hambone who posted about Josef Fritzel, he was in Austria, not Australia you moron!!!
I could carry on for ages because i believe in sexual freedom and a persons right to be themselves but i have said enough for now.
By PetiteSquitFan on Feb 14, 2010
another great firewall? congrats australia, youre the new china.
By verlorenModus on Feb 15, 2010
This is sexist to the core, why are men allowed to have small breasts but not women?
By Dominic on Feb 19, 2010
While they’re here, I vote that the Australian government also ban ugly men from appearing in movies or any kind of medias ^_^ As depiction of uglies possibly encourage some to zoophilia lol seriously though Australia is so silly
By Julie on Feb 19, 2010
Wow, Australian politicians are even stupider than American politicians. Nice job, Aussies.
By Rob on Feb 20, 2010
You know, I’ve got to say…you Australians really do impress me. Here in the US, the discussion down in comments section (and especially if the subject’s on censorship and pornography) would be nowhere close to as civilized or rational as it is on this website. I’m considering moving to Australia now.
By Jim on Feb 22, 2010
Who the hell, elected these morons?
“Barnaby and Guy”, it sounds like a cartoon name.
Be vewy vewy quiet, we’re hunting pedophiles.
By melkor on Feb 26, 2010
Well, Barnaby Joyce *is* a rural lad, who is used to seeing cows’ udders — I imagine anything smaller than his favourite Friesian is ‘unnatural’ to the boy!
Seriously, though, I find it difficult to write anything about censorship without either laughing at its brain-dead idiocy or ranting at its holier-than-thou smugness. What I can say is that I am bloody angry at the bricks-with-dangly-bits and their tame female lackeys who presume to decide (often on the basis of advice from their Invisible Friend) what is ‘normal.’
MsNaughty has summed up the matter excellently — the ACB’s cretinous stance denigrates small-breasted women every by positing a ‘normal’ body shape for adult women and victimizing all those whose bodies do not conform. No less perniciously than the mass-market publications that focus on ‘baby-bumps’ and which celeb is a kilo overweight, and the fashion ‘industry’ with its stick-figure models, the ACB’s attitude has the potential to cause severe trauma to women already suffering from feelings of inadequacy over their body’s shape and/or size
[And wasn’t it interesting to hear from the men — including the Anonymous ‘Titstormers’— who don’t care about *that,* or who blame women themselves, as well as the men who show a decent sympathy.]
As many commentators on this site have already pointed out, the kerfuffle is caused by paranoia about paedophilia — the idea that seeing women with A-cup breasts will ‘encourage’ people to have sex with peri-pubescent girls is logically dubious, to say the least, but logic rarely has a place in politics, and the prospect of being harassed by ‘concerned citizens’ for not ‘protecting children’ sends politicians and public servants scurrying for cover quicker than a dodgy hamburger from a late night caravan take-away. One might consider taking action under anti-discrimination legislation, but for the fact that those who would judge such a case can be stampeded by the same ‘moral guardians’ — nevertheless it *is* discrimination and discrimination of the worst order!
The proscription of pubic baldness is part of the same obsessional package. However *this* one comes from the US — the land of the L-shaped sheet and ‘making love/sleeping with’ someone in one’s underwear — where ‘full brazilians’ are regularly excoriated as pandering to paedophiles. Once again this conception has no basis in logic, is irrational and basically unprovable — it is a matter of taste and cultural prejudice, and as such *should* be beyond the reach of censorship boards. I find this one particularly objectionable because it means that, although we are both over 30 and in an exclusive relationship, both I and my partner are alternatively and simultaneously paedophile and paedophile-enabler.
Equally objectionable is the ‘ban’ on female ejaculation and the ludicrous identification of the phenomenon with urination. Yes, the first time I did it (about the age of 13), I thought I had urinated, but I only had to taste the fluid to know that it was most definitely *not* urine. I will *not* let any male geek in a lab-coat — or his trained female pet of an assistant — tell me that I don’t know what my body is doing.
Nor will I let a misogynist patriarch of a politician — or his docile female counterpart — tell me that the sight of men spraying their bodily fluids everywhere is acceptable and ‘normal’ (even ‘heroic’) while I am a ‘freak’ for doing the same.
Moreover, while the thought of urinating on another person may be ‘distasteful’ to some, it is not ‘distasteful’ to everyone, and viewing it, or fantasizing about it, is a lot less ‘harmful’ than your average episode of ‘Criminal Minds’ where blood and gore (usually female) litter the TV screen like raindrops.
[There is a thesis here about why violence against women is ‘acceptable’ viewing, while consensual sex isn’t, but this is not the place for it.]
Finally, I’d like to leave you with a story about the most honest censorship board I ever heard of, which directed Canada’s ‘moral compass in the early 70s. They watched a movie that they ruled “would deprave and corrupt any person who saw it.” Then they all promptly resigned — on the grounds that, having been depraved and corrupted, they were no longer fit to be censors! If only we could expect such honesty from our own censors or our god-bothering politicians.
By Sally on Feb 28, 2010
What the fuck is wrong with this fucking Government? How the the fuck does some nerd wearing glasses (K.Rudd) come up with the preposterous notion that what he thinks is beneficial to greater society should be forcibly imposed on the whole population? ie:internet censorship. Are we in China where the backwards governement control what the people see and read. This is fucking bullshit. Stay the fuck out of our living rooms, we dont need anyone restricting the availability of internet sites. This is absolute bullshit that some beurocrat even has the power to decide what the citizens of this country can access. We are not all the same, some like porn, some dont, but what the fuck is this bullshit policy: one person doesnt deem porn appropriate so therefore no one else can watch it. What are you making my fucking decisions for me now? FUCK YOU
By Nat on Mar 1, 2010
“There are over one million sites featuring female ejaculation…”
Wow! Can we get a list to confirm that number? I’m just glad someone is obviously putting in the time and effort to make sure these statistics are as accurate as possible.
By Arachnikid on Mar 9, 2010