The Australian Sex Party (ASP) said Wednesday that the Australian Classification Board (ACB) is now banning depictions of small-breasted women in adult publications and films. It comes just a week after it was found that material with depictions of females ejaculating during orgasm are now Refused Classification and Australian Customs directed to confiscate it.
ASP’s Fiona Patten writes on her party’s website that they are starting to see depictions of women in their late 20s being banned because they have an A cup breast size:
“This is in response to a campaign led by Kids Free 2 B Kids and promoted by Barnaby Joyce and Guy Barnett in Senate Estimates late last year. Mainstream companies such as Larry Flint’s Hustler produce some of the publications that have been banned. These companies are regulated by the FBI to ensure that only adult performers are featured in their publications.”
Patten writes that such bans may be an unintended consequence of the Senator’s actions “but they are largely responsible for the sharp increase in breast size in Australian adult magazines of late”.
How can this be happening
The National Classification Code dictates that anything that describes or depicts a person who is, or appears to be, a child under 18 (whether the person is engaged in sexual activity or not) in a way that is likely to cause offence to a reasonable adult is Refused Classification.
State Crime Acts are also similar. Victoria’s Criminal Code includes the ‘or appears to be’ clause in its definition of child pornography and it doesn’t need to cause offence to a reasonable adult for it to be illegal.
Even if you are 18 years old but you look younger, taking a photograph of your breasts and uploading it to the Internet could land you or someone you know in serious trouble.
Keep in mind it’s highly unlikely that a naked photograph of a 30, 40 or 50 year old woman with small breasts would ‘appear’ to be child pornography on the basis of her breast size alone. Small breasts do not automatically mean something will be banned or is illegal.
A bad message
Australian adult blogger Ms Naughty says we need to look at what this ruling says to Australian women:
“Why ban small boobs? I can only assume it stems from paranoia that flat chests somehow stir up the pedophiles. And you only need to mention that “p” word to start a full-scale moral panic in Parliament.”
“Shall we put such hysteria aside and look at what this ruling is saying to Australian women? Basically, it’s classing a certain normal female body type as obscene. It’s declaring all flat chests to be automatically juvenile, something that should not be viewed by anyone because of a fear that it will stir up “base instincts” in certain people.”
“Can the Classification Board be any more insulting or sexist?”
Ejaculations
According to Patten, female ejaculations films are being Refused Classification on one of two grounds:
- That the depictions are a form of urination which is banned under the label of ‘golden showers’ in the Classification Guidelines or
- Female ejaculation is an ‘abhorrent’ depiction
“Films that show both male and female ejaculation have routinely been given an X rating since 1983″ said Patten. “The new ruling follows a boom in the numbers of adult films featuring female ejaculation since the pioneering research of Professor Emeritus Beverly Whipple was published in her book The G Spot.”
Content Refused Classification will be blocked to Australian adults under the Government’s planned Internet censorship scheme.
“There are over one million sites featuring female ejaculation and for Australia to be banning depictions and discussion of this important issue, takes us back into the Victorian era where they didn’t even believe that women could have orgasms.”
The ACB has been contacted for comment.
230 comments
melkor says:
Feb 26, 2010
Who the hell, elected these morons?
“Barnaby and Guy”, it sounds like a cartoon name.
Be vewy vewy quiet, we’re hunting pedophiles.
Sally says:
Feb 28, 2010
Well, Barnaby Joyce *is* a rural lad, who is used to seeing cows’ udders — I imagine anything smaller than his favourite Friesian is ‘unnatural’ to the boy!
Seriously, though, I find it difficult to write anything about censorship without either laughing at its brain-dead idiocy or ranting at its holier-than-thou smugness. What I can say is that I am bloody angry at the bricks-with-dangly-bits and their tame female lackeys who presume to decide (often on the basis of advice from their Invisible Friend) what is ‘normal.’
MsNaughty has summed up the matter excellently — the ACB’s cretinous stance denigrates small-breasted women every by positing a ‘normal’ body shape for adult women and victimizing all those whose bodies do not conform. No less perniciously than the mass-market publications that focus on ‘baby-bumps’ and which celeb is a kilo overweight, and the fashion ‘industry’ with its stick-figure models, the ACB’s attitude has the potential to cause severe trauma to women already suffering from feelings of inadequacy over their body’s shape and/or size
[And wasn’t it interesting to hear from the men — including the Anonymous ‘Titstormers’— who don’t care about *that,* or who blame women themselves, as well as the men who show a decent sympathy.]
As many commentators on this site have already pointed out, the kerfuffle is caused by paranoia about paedophilia — the idea that seeing women with A-cup breasts will ‘encourage’ people to have sex with peri-pubescent girls is logically dubious, to say the least, but logic rarely has a place in politics, and the prospect of being harassed by ‘concerned citizens’ for not ‘protecting children’ sends politicians and public servants scurrying for cover quicker than a dodgy hamburger from a late night caravan take-away. One might consider taking action under anti-discrimination legislation, but for the fact that those who would judge such a case can be stampeded by the same ‘moral guardians’ — nevertheless it *is* discrimination and discrimination of the worst order!
The proscription of pubic baldness is part of the same obsessional package. However *this* one comes from the US — the land of the L-shaped sheet and ‘making love/sleeping with’ someone in one’s underwear — where ‘full brazilians’ are regularly excoriated as pandering to paedophiles. Once again this conception has no basis in logic, is irrational and basically unprovable — it is a matter of taste and cultural prejudice, and as such *should* be beyond the reach of censorship boards. I find this one particularly objectionable because it means that, although we are both over 30 and in an exclusive relationship, both I and my partner are alternatively and simultaneously paedophile and paedophile-enabler.
Equally objectionable is the ‘ban’ on female ejaculation and the ludicrous identification of the phenomenon with urination. Yes, the first time I did it (about the age of 13), I thought I had urinated, but I only had to taste the fluid to know that it was most definitely *not* urine. I will *not* let any male geek in a lab-coat — or his trained female pet of an assistant — tell me that I don’t know what my body is doing.
Nor will I let a misogynist patriarch of a politician — or his docile female counterpart — tell me that the sight of men spraying their bodily fluids everywhere is acceptable and ‘normal’ (even ‘heroic’) while I am a ‘freak’ for doing the same.
Moreover, while the thought of urinating on another person may be ‘distasteful’ to some, it is not ‘distasteful’ to everyone, and viewing it, or fantasizing about it, is a lot less ‘harmful’ than your average episode of ‘Criminal Minds’ where blood and gore (usually female) litter the TV screen like raindrops.
[There is a thesis here about why violence against women is ‘acceptable’ viewing, while consensual sex isn’t, but this is not the place for it.]
Finally, I’d like to leave you with a story about the most honest censorship board I ever heard of, which directed Canada’s ‘moral compass in the early 70s. They watched a movie that they ruled “would deprave and corrupt any person who saw it.” Then they all promptly resigned — on the grounds that, having been depraved and corrupted, they were no longer fit to be censors! If only we could expect such honesty from our own censors or our god-bothering politicians.
Nat says:
Mar 1, 2010
What the fuck is wrong with this fucking Government? How the the fuck does some nerd wearing glasses (K.Rudd) come up with the preposterous notion that what he thinks is beneficial to greater society should be forcibly imposed on the whole population? ie:internet censorship. Are we in China where the backwards governement control what the people see and read. This is fucking bullshit. Stay the fuck out of our living rooms, we dont need anyone restricting the availability of internet sites. This is absolute bullshit that some beurocrat even has the power to decide what the citizens of this country can access. We are not all the same, some like porn, some dont, but what the fuck is this bullshit policy: one person doesnt deem porn appropriate so therefore no one else can watch it. What are you making my fucking decisions for me now? FUCK YOU
Arachnikid says:
Mar 9, 2010
“There are over one million sites featuring female ejaculation…”
Wow! Can we get a list to confirm that number? I’m just glad someone is obviously putting in the time and effort to make sure these statistics are as accurate as possible.
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Cronfeld says:
Mar 17, 2010
And who is it that’s bringing in ridiculous laws like this?
Answer: Men. Over-chivalrous idiots pandering to a radical feminist agenda.
As long as ordinary men stay silent, things will never get better. They’ll get worse.
I can see it now in a few years’ time. “Man sent to prison for life for having sex with a 30-year-old woman.” Why? Because she USED to be under-aged.
Samson says:
Mar 17, 2010
Heh… truth is women sexually peak a little before men do. Some where between 15 and 17. Use your eyes, judge for yourself and don’t let another do it for you. Even earlier depending on exposure levels to estrogen.
This ideology feeds into the expectation that women should look like teenagers (and will probably see an elevated pathology towards the demographic resulting in the loss of life because it attempts to repress the obvious).
Too funny.
Poester99 says:
Mar 17, 2010
Hey, stop yapping here on this forum, get a sack, and go out there and make life miserable for the “velvet” jack-booted thugs that are stomping on your rights. If they get away with this they will push it even farther. You only deserve logical and responsible government if you fight for it. Toss this bunch of idiotic bullies.
Jaye says:
Mar 22, 2010
Australia… land of the free.
I am ashamed to say I was born in this backwards dump. Everytime our government does something stupid – and this happens far too often – the people of the land down under moan and complain, but never get off their butts to DO something!
Where are the riots? The demonstrations and EXPRESSIONS of dissatisfaction?
Before we know we’ll using our personal details to buy movie tickets and forced to register our voting preference.
It’s like so many people have said on this forum, this is an embarrassment, and Australians should be ashamed of themselves if they let the government pursue this archaic form of control.
For god’s sake STAND UP FOR YOURSELVES!!!
I don’t even need to comment on the matter – there’s really no question of how ridiculous the idea that small-breasted women should be banned from porn.
What’s more, have we ever really assumed that our leaders have any sort of sexual education?
Please don’t disappoint Australia – for once do something to preserve your own freedoms.
Casey O'Reily says:
Mar 24, 2010
HAHAHAHAH-ohwait, you’re serious?
Screw this shit, I’m going to spend every cent I earn on overseas produce, this country’s gone to hell.
Seriously considering leaving this country, even as a girl I find myself disgusted that this country has gone this far, let them masturbate to whatever they want. It’s just one more brick in the road that leads to China.
elle says:
Mar 26, 2010
This is beyond a joke! i am a 20 year old Australian female who like most humans has trouble feeling self Conscience because of images of “ideal” shape being portrayed in the media
And in magazines so it’s little wonder that in today’s society ludicrous behaviors
Are displayed by the youth trying to find self acceptance. We have girls as young as
Eight developing eating disorders, twelve year olds asking their mothers to purchase them
Padded push up bras and eighteen year old women applying for loans they can’t afford to fund breast implant surgery because they feel inadequate! These adult films have an age restriction
Attached and I can guarantee anyone watching these films can appreciate women are
Diverse, we are not all born with large breasts. Breast size is no indication of a woman’s
Age as young teens Breast sizes are increasing with the introduction of growth hormones in poultry and other variations.
Shame on whoever is responsible for this action because I’m sure in one way or another feelings of inadequacy will catch up with you!
John says:
Apr 11, 2010
Kind of makes a mockery of all these politicians promoting normal body image on one hand, whilst on the other saying that women with small breasts is wrong. But then again whilst they are still controlled by the arcade god botherers and do gooders this country will continue to be the most censored in the western world and with the advent of the internet filtering, one of the most in the world.
Bernie Lomax says:
Apr 16, 2010
We may as well start exterminating everyone who doesn’t meet all the “normal” standards. If your penis is below average, we’ll kill ya. If your IQ is below average, we’ll wipe you and all the others like you out. Below average height? Sorry, we have to weed you out too. Now if you’re a woman with small breasts, we’ll have to get rid of all of you as well. In effect, this will bring out a great deal of pedophiles from hiding because they won’t be able to get their fix of mosquito bite delight. We’ll kill all of them too, because it’s not due to a mental illness that they like children, it’s because they are perfectly rational, conscious people who like children simply because they choose to like them, they’re not drawn to them. Ultimately, anyone who is mentally ill should be punished because it’s their own fault if they’re mentally ill. No, none of this is sarcastic. *Cough, cough*.
Trevor Loughlin says:
May 13, 2010
Child protection has mutated into a monster which is devouring the innocent-even children!
These thought-crime laws have been a disaster from the word go. Looking is NOT doing.
You only have to take a photograph in public in the UK now to be called a baby rapist.
Thank you, Paul Goggins, for introducing this wonderful thought-crime law to the UK. As I clean the infants school, look at the innocent little kids and think of what fools both I and my false accusers were made to look in public, because of your evil, idiotic idea that an image could be criminal in itself, I seriously think that I should take your life.
Connor says:
May 19, 2010
And to think, I nearly moved to Aus myself. What kind of national mentality is allowing this kind of legislation to be even joked about, let alone signed into the statutes?
For what it’s worth, your country may find you obscene, but there’s at least one guy in the UK who adores small titted women and I make no apology for saying that.
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weeee says:
Jun 10, 2010
only Australia.
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anonymous says:
Oct 2, 2010
this is the most PATHETIC thing i have ever heard, good going australia. your insulting probably most women with a breasts, as you are now referring to them as little girls? oh, so we’re little girls now because we have samall breasts?
GET A GRIP.
hannah says:
Oct 14, 2010
i agree with b-cup goddess 100% im a young mum of two girls,and i’ve had a hard time getting use to my b-cup.my boyfriend wouldnt like being called a pedophile either!!! i think this decision on small breast’s is stupid,unfair,and discrimminating.there are plenty of men and women that like the sight of a small breasted women,and from having small breast’s does not go with age.get things right in this counrty so we can stay above other’s!!!
hannah says:
Oct 14, 2010
they cannot taken away women’s right’s.women have fought 4 yrs trying 2 get them.i dont agree with porn much at all,n nor do i like the nakedness on tv…but no1 should be able to stop an adult who is a human being with rights in a so-called free country to do what they think is right.yea its the government but why the fuck cant the government focus on something that will help everyone.instead of taking away a beautiful and natural sight of a womens body. im 20,breastfeed 2kids 4 about a yr,hav a b cup and just getting use to it.thanks 4 helping with ur stupid idea!!!
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cameron says:
Nov 8, 2012
I find this whole thing appalling to tell us what is natural is not normal, and larger girls and to be normal. I have a few best friends who are very small cupped and suffering from insecurity from the media, in my opinion they are the greatest friends i’ve ever have, why should they have this perfect body type idea feed to them. And I love how they look cute and the fact there using the scapegoat of pedo’s to marginalize the media its sick to he’ll with this band
May says:
Dec 2, 2010
The “Think of the children” excuse is so overused. How does having small breasts immediately equals child porn and pedophilia? There are plenty of teens and prepubescents that have naturally large breasts. Should they be put into a porno since they dont have small boobs and thus doesnt equal pedophilia? Besides, there are men out there that LIKE small cup sizes. Does it automatically make them pedos because they prefer small breasts over large sizes?
Thanks for making women across Australia extremely conscious about their looks. /sarcasm.
sir throbberofnobber says:
Jun 20, 2011
the laws, if applied are a contravention of australia’s anti-descrimination acts, namely the sex discrimination act in particular where it relates to discriminating against a woman in her employment based on *physical appearance*
as men don’t have breasts this is also sexual discrimination.
the ACB uses generalistic terms to describe women who appear underage. so this could mean :
skinny women
small breasts
shaven vagina
childish looking face
women who have been made to appear like CP by having their features photoshopped to alter breast size, head to body ratio, eye size, hand size, hirsuteness,
considering the penalties for CP can be over 10 years for low level material this is an important matter and an infringement of our civil rights.
so when you come back from rome with your pictures of the sistine chapel can you get busted at the airport and sent to prison for those depictions of cherubs with their exposed penises? (cartoon porn is also illegal as apparently now they have ‘person’ status – viz simpsons case NSW)
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Anonymous says:
Dec 2, 2011
It’s natural that some women have small breasts. It’s very upsetting that they shouldn’t be allowed to be photographed. It scares me that what used to be free countries gets less and less freedom.
Willard Manning says:
Jan 7, 2012
What would Jesus Christ do? Has anyone down under heard of him? Are you all a bunch of Pagans? He said that if a man looks on a woman to lust after her he has commited adultry in his heart. I only have one word for you -”REPENT”
al says:
Jan 30, 2012
I had pictures of ONE flat chested teen model in my usb drive and now I am a convicted child sex offender. I have never even spoken to a child about sex, I am not attracted to any child, I do not have paedophilic tendencies, yet I am now a registered child sex offender in Australia… This regime has ruined my job prospects in Australia and ruined me for simply prefering the flatchested models… What I learned is that the Australian legal profession is making a great income from normal hard working Australians. There is more freedom in the Middle East, In China, In Africa and in the USA than down under where lawyers are rorting Australians of their hard earned wealth… needless to say I moved overseas and now enjoy my sexual preferances of mature flatchested women internationally… Small breasted women, you rule… Love you.