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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/video-angry-aussies-guide-to-mandatory-isp-filtering/comment-page-1/#comment-1661</link>
		<dc:creator>Brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got sent this video (took me about an hour to load with the crappy internet I have haha.) and I wasn&#039;t sure what it was about because I had no idea about the internet censorship... I was thinking, oh... I don&#039;t watch the news so I probably missed it. I was surprised to know that the media HAVEN&#039;T been attacking this topic.

I&#039;m 15, and I go to high school... at our high school we have a nanny net program that has blocked a crap load of websites which makes it hard to even USE the internet.
When we need to do a project on something (a political matter maybe) we go on the internet 99% of the time. But, if we go on there and the political matter is against the side of the current government... will that be blocked?

How can we be sure that this &#039;Pedophilia Catcher&#039; basically won&#039;t turn into another government tool that chooses what we read and what we don&#039;t, taking away our free speech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got sent this video (took me about an hour to load with the crappy internet I have haha.) and I wasn&#8217;t sure what it was about because I had no idea about the internet censorship&#8230; I was thinking, oh&#8230; I don&#8217;t watch the news so I probably missed it. I was surprised to know that the media HAVEN&#8217;T been attacking this topic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 15, and I go to high school&#8230; at our high school we have a nanny net program that has blocked a crap load of websites which makes it hard to even USE the internet.<br />
When we need to do a project on something (a political matter maybe) we go on the internet 99% of the time. But, if we go on there and the political matter is against the side of the current government&#8230; will that be blocked?</p>
<p>How can we be sure that this &#8216;Pedophilia Catcher&#8217; basically won&#8217;t turn into another government tool that chooses what we read and what we don&#8217;t, taking away our free speech?</p>
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		<title>By: Max Tivey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Tivey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a scandal. I don&#039;t know which is worse, the legislation itself, or the sneaky way they went about it. Sure, we can circumvent these filters, but why should we HAVE to? We must do all we can to nip this in the bud! I don&#039;t watch porn (at all) but won&#039;t tolerate it being used as an excuse for this draconian crime against the public. BTW: Wonder how much of a finger big-business has in this rotten little pie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a scandal. I don&#8217;t know which is worse, the legislation itself, or the sneaky way they went about it. Sure, we can circumvent these filters, but why should we HAVE to? We must do all we can to nip this in the bud! I don&#8217;t watch porn (at all) but won&#8217;t tolerate it being used as an excuse for this draconian crime against the public. BTW: Wonder how much of a finger big-business has in this rotten little pie?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morning Terrence.

I&#039;m not aware of a law that says you cannot buy an X-Rated film in NSW? Only the seller would be committing an offense. Importing on the other hand. 

It really is astounding that &#039;fetishes&#039; are considered prohibited, when a fetish could be any number of tame acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning Terrence.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not aware of a law that says you cannot buy an X-Rated film in NSW? Only the seller would be committing an offense. Importing on the other hand. </p>
<p>It really is astounding that &#8216;fetishes&#8217; are considered prohibited, when a fetish could be any number of tame acts.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrence Valter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrence Valter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porn is illegal, in the sense you aren&#039;t allowed to sell it or buy it. Yes you can possess it but you are not allowed to obtain it.
That makes it illegal in my book.

These points are taken from the Govt of NSw website, and makes it very clear just what illegal porn is.


# X rated films are legally available for sale or hire from the ACT or the Northern Territory (p 2).
# In the States, the law only permits X rated films to be possessed for personal use. X rated films are not, and never have been, legally available for sale or hire in NSW (p 3).
# Prior to the introduction of the X classification in 1984, sexually explicit films were available for sale in NSW. They were unclassified and subject to the State’s indecency laws (p 3).
# The X classification is a restrictive category of films that is defined to be unsuitable for minors (p 3).
# The X classification is also defined under the National Classification Code to exclude all violent content. Depictions involving coercion and non-consent have been banned in X since 1984, with later prohibitions being placed on sexually assaultive language, fetishes and purposefully demeaning depictions (p 3).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porn is illegal, in the sense you aren&#8217;t allowed to sell it or buy it. Yes you can possess it but you are not allowed to obtain it.<br />
That makes it illegal in my book.</p>
<p>These points are taken from the Govt of NSw website, and makes it very clear just what illegal porn is.</p>
<p># X rated films are legally available for sale or hire from the ACT or the Northern Territory (p 2).<br />
# In the States, the law only permits X rated films to be possessed for personal use. X rated films are not, and never have been, legally available for sale or hire in NSW (p 3).<br />
# Prior to the introduction of the X classification in 1984, sexually explicit films were available for sale in NSW. They were unclassified and subject to the State’s indecency laws (p 3).<br />
# The X classification is a restrictive category of films that is defined to be unsuitable for minors (p 3).<br />
# The X classification is also defined under the National Classification Code to exclude all violent content. Depictions involving coercion and non-consent have been banned in X since 1984, with later prohibitions being placed on sexually assaultive language, fetishes and purposefully demeaning depictions (p 3).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t. But *much* porn is illegal to sell in all states and illegal to possess in certain areas of the NT and WA. See http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/why-are-adult-stores-selling-banned-films-and-magazines/ for a map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t. But *much* porn is illegal to sell in all states and illegal to possess in certain areas of the NT and WA. See <a href="http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/why-are-adult-stores-selling-banned-films-and-magazines/" rel="nofollow">http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/why-are-adult-stores-selling-banned-films-and-magazines/</a> for a map.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on, where does it say that Porn is illegal in states other than the ACT and NT. That doesn&#039;t sound right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on, where does it say that Porn is illegal in states other than the ACT and NT. That doesn&#8217;t sound right.</p>
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		<title>By: SkipEU</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkipEU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori: you are a victim of government&#039;s propaganda. You are saying as government is one step ahead of pedophiles (they are useful excuse in modern times if you want to implement something stupid) but in reality it is the opposite. 

This is just about banning porn. With internet filtering Australia will become a unique developed world example of kindergarten where adults don&#039;t have basic rights and even bigger nanny state as it is already is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori: you are a victim of government&#8217;s propaganda. You are saying as government is one step ahead of pedophiles (they are useful excuse in modern times if you want to implement something stupid) but in reality it is the opposite. </p>
<p>This is just about banning porn. With internet filtering Australia will become a unique developed world example of kindergarten where adults don&#8217;t have basic rights and even bigger nanny state as it is already is.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPREAD THE WORD! GOOD WORK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPREAD THE WORD! GOOD WORK.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice work mate, thats a great video. i&#039;m glad that we have a spokesperson that puts this forward in a more entertaining way. this will be great to spread the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice work mate, thats a great video. i&#8217;m glad that we have a spokesperson that puts this forward in a more entertaining way. this will be great to spread the message.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lori

Get the facts right. This will cause those sick people more underground.

Read -&gt; http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=967413&amp;p=12#r224</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lori</p>
<p>Get the facts right. This will cause those sick people more underground.</p>
<p>Read -&gt; <a href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=967413&#038;p=12#r224" rel="nofollow">http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=967413&#038;p=12#r224</a></p>
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