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	<title>Comments on: Tuesday filtering wrap up: Conroy&#8217;s blog, AISA, Greens and the trial of doom</title>
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		<title>By: Stush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Bernadette McMenamin taking part in the live trials? If not, that indicates that she isn&#039;t commited to banning child pornography, and we should question her values!

Also, i see she hasn&#039;t said anything about preventing arson!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Bernadette McMenamin taking part in the live trials? If not, that indicates that she isn&#8217;t commited to banning child pornography, and we should question her values!</p>
<p>Also, i see she hasn&#8217;t said anything about preventing arson!</p>
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		<title>By: blind_dead_mcjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>blind_dead_mcjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t people like Bernadette McMenamin notice the irony in using the &quot;think of the children&quot; argument where pedophiles and child porn are concerned, think about it very carefully for a minute

it&#039;s because of those sickos &quot;thinking of the children&quot; that such filth even exists</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t people like Bernadette McMenamin notice the irony in using the &#8220;think of the children&#8221; argument where pedophiles and child porn are concerned, think about it very carefully for a minute</p>
<p>it&#8217;s because of those sickos &#8220;thinking of the children&#8221; that such filth even exists</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Molly Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Molly Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could you the absolutely brilliant site: &lt;a&gt;http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com&lt;/a&gt; to test if a site is avialable for others or not.

HTH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could you the absolutely brilliant site: <a>http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com</a> to test if a site is avialable for others or not.</p>
<p>HTH</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats fairly interesting Daniel if that was the case and it said “This site is on the ACMA blacklist of banned sites&quot; it wouldnt be too difficult to collate all these webpages and form a list of your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats fairly interesting Daniel if that was the case and it said “This site is on the ACMA blacklist of banned sites&#8221; it wouldnt be too difficult to collate all these webpages and form a list of your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question about the filter. If the blacklist is supposed to be secret does that mean everytime we try and access a banned site we will get a deceitful &quot;404 Error: This page does not exist&quot; or &quot;Time out Error&quot; message like they do in China? This is how the Chinese government manages to keep its list secret - because you can never quite know for sure if the internet&#039;s really busy, if the site is just down at its own end or if you&#039;re blocked by the government filter there. Apparently, they even block and then unblock and then re-block sites with totally harmless content for no other reason than just to keep people guessing about what&#039;s really blocked and what isn&#039;t. 
I ask this, because if we get a big red screen saying something like &quot;This site is on the ACMA blacklist of banned sites. You are not permitted to access it&quot; then I&#039;m guessing the secret blacklist would not be very secret for very long. Is the government here going to lie to us about the sites we&#039;re trying to access like the Chinese government lies to its people when its filter is activated in order to keep the what&#039;s being filtered a secret?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about the filter. If the blacklist is supposed to be secret does that mean everytime we try and access a banned site we will get a deceitful &#8220;404 Error: This page does not exist&#8221; or &#8220;Time out Error&#8221; message like they do in China? This is how the Chinese government manages to keep its list secret &#8211; because you can never quite know for sure if the internet&#8217;s really busy, if the site is just down at its own end or if you&#8217;re blocked by the government filter there. Apparently, they even block and then unblock and then re-block sites with totally harmless content for no other reason than just to keep people guessing about what&#8217;s really blocked and what isn&#8217;t.<br />
I ask this, because if we get a big red screen saying something like &#8220;This site is on the ACMA blacklist of banned sites. You are not permitted to access it&#8221; then I&#8217;m guessing the secret blacklist would not be very secret for very long. Is the government here going to lie to us about the sites we&#8217;re trying to access like the Chinese government lies to its people when its filter is activated in order to keep the what&#8217;s being filtered a secret?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telsta refusing to get involved shows that they support child pornography? Get a grip!

I&#039;m happy to see the DBCDE blog&#039;s first post has 100+ comments so far, many of them critical of the plan but praising the government for its openness. Let&#039;s hope the blog is more than just an overstuffed, never emptied suggestions box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telsta refusing to get involved shows that they support child pornography? Get a grip!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy to see the DBCDE blog&#8217;s first post has 100+ comments so far, many of them critical of the plan but praising the government for its openness. Let&#8217;s hope the blog is more than just an overstuffed, never emptied suggestions box.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect Bernadette McMenamin&#039;s reasoning and opinion. Just not very much. Now Telstra is on the side of the paedophiles? Textbook straw man, and beneath reporting in a major newspaper I would have thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect Bernadette McMenamin&#8217;s reasoning and opinion. Just not very much. Now Telstra is on the side of the paedophiles? Textbook straw man, and beneath reporting in a major newspaper I would have thought.</p>
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