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	<title>Comments on: Three ISP heads say filtering won&#8217;t work</title>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/three-isp-heads-say-filtering-wont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Government is moving from PC filter which was introduced by previous Government to ISP level filtering only because they say not many families have been using them. I’m not sure if many families know they can get a free filter from Netalert website because there has been hardly any publicity about them. They work far better than ISP filters and have many features that if the reason for any filter is the safety of our children, then PC filters are the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Government is moving from PC filter which was introduced by previous Government to ISP level filtering only because they say not many families have been using them. I’m not sure if many families know they can get a free filter from Netalert website because there has been hardly any publicity about them. They work far better than ISP filters and have many features that if the reason for any filter is the safety of our children, then PC filters are the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a shame about fallout 3. I&#039;ve enjoyed playing that game immensely! Hardly something worth banning. I can&#039;t see any reason why it&#039;d be banned apart from the occasional swear word in it. Great game though, sucks for the Govt. that banning it hasn&#039;t stopped me from playing it. 

Also, anyone know which ISP&#039;s will take part in this live trial? I&#039;d like to know if I need to take my business elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a shame about fallout 3. I&#8217;ve enjoyed playing that game immensely! Hardly something worth banning. I can&#8217;t see any reason why it&#8217;d be banned apart from the occasional swear word in it. Great game though, sucks for the Govt. that banning it hasn&#8217;t stopped me from playing it. </p>
<p>Also, anyone know which ISP&#8217;s will take part in this live trial? I&#8217;d like to know if I need to take my business elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all of your comments guys.

&lt;b&gt;@sam&lt;/b&gt;: Fallout 3 could have been RC&#039;ed due to the drug use. It could also have been rated R18+ if it existed. However, I do acknowledge it was not the best example. As such I&#039;ve updated the post. Cheers mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of your comments guys.</p>
<p><b>@sam</b>: Fallout 3 could have been RC&#8217;ed due to the drug use. It could also have been rated R18+ if it existed. However, I do acknowledge it was not the best example. As such I&#8217;ve updated the post. Cheers mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note to point out that Fallout 3 was only refused classification because we have no R18+ category for games (MS15+ is the highest).  It would not have been RC&#039;d if it was published in the form of a movie.

Without that context, and in the context of this post, it looks like Fallout 3 got RC&#039;d because its content was more extreme than permitted under R18+ guidelines - which is probably was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note to point out that Fallout 3 was only refused classification because we have no R18+ category for games (MS15+ is the highest).  It would not have been RC&#8217;d if it was published in the form of a movie.</p>
<p>Without that context, and in the context of this post, it looks like Fallout 3 got RC&#8217;d because its content was more extreme than permitted under R18+ guidelines &#8211; which is probably was not.</p>
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		<title>By: rick_au</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick_au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see the ISP&#039;s having input,I think this is the first time they have said something(apart from Mark)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see the ISP&#8217;s having input,I think this is the first time they have said something(apart from Mark)</p>
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		<title>By: Spikeles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spikeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang around the forums at www.whirlpool.net.au and you&#039;ll see that Simon Hackett is one very smart guy. I totally agree with everything they say. If the government is smart(ha!), they will listen when 3 of the biggest ISPs in Australia tell them, &quot;This is a bad idea&quot;.

Oh, and i loved the way Simon called the law &quot;spooks&quot; at the end :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang around the forums at <a href="http://www.whirlpool.net.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.whirlpool.net.au</a> and you&#8217;ll see that Simon Hackett is one very smart guy. I totally agree with everything they say. If the government is smart(ha!), they will listen when 3 of the biggest ISPs in Australia tell them, &#8220;This is a bad idea&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh, and i loved the way Simon called the law &#8220;spooks&#8221; at the end <img src='http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zzap</title>
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		<dc:creator>zzap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some very interesting snippets of information there. Internode&#039;s guy made quite a number of good comments. Nice video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very interesting snippets of information there. Internode&#8217;s guy made quite a number of good comments. Nice video.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Blogonaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean the Blogonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One hopes conroy is watching</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;ll admit that bestiality (mentioned as an &quot;obvious target&quot; along with child porn) can be viewed as obnoxious unlike Child Porn it has been available in New South Wales and even unpoliced. Unlike child pornography it is NOT illegal to purchase (and thus be in possession of) nor own bestiality in New South Wales.

 I believe I even purchased a few sample tapes - some of them falsely rated &quot;X&quot;.

 Bestiality was also quite common in the days of 8mm film when it was shown in the &quot;penny arcade&quot; type (book) shops in Pitt Street here in Sydney.

 Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;ll admit that bestiality (mentioned as an &#8220;obvious target&#8221; along with child porn) can be viewed as obnoxious unlike Child Porn it has been available in New South Wales and even unpoliced. Unlike child pornography it is NOT illegal to purchase (and thus be in possession of) nor own bestiality in New South Wales.</p>
<p> I believe I even purchased a few sample tapes &#8211; some of them falsely rated &#8220;X&#8221;.</p>
<p> Bestiality was also quite common in the days of 8mm film when it was shown in the &#8220;penny arcade&#8221; type (book) shops in Pitt Street here in Sydney.</p>
<p> Bob</p>
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