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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/safer-internet-day-2009-is-february-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picked up by The Inquisitr

http://www.inquisitr.com/18139/bushfire-arsonist-brendan-sokaluk-worships-mother-earth-on-spooky-myspace-page/

The site was there this morning and the following URL would have found it...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&amp;friendID=199945570

Now all it says is ...

This user has either cancelled their membership, or their account has been deleted. 

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I&#039;m not sure why.  I didn&#039;t find anything spooky on that particular page - even though I noted that Kevin Rudd was listed as a friend yesterday - but not this morning..

I guess a lawyer is acting under the authority of the author.  There was nothing on the web page that invited people towards arson.  There were a few simple words about sex but nothing offensive.

 Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picked up by The Inquisitr</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inquisitr.com/18139/bushfire-arsonist-brendan-sokaluk-worships-mother-earth-on-spooky-myspace-page/" rel="nofollow">http://www.inquisitr.com/18139/bushfire-arsonist-brendan-sokaluk-worships-mother-earth-on-spooky-myspace-page/</a></p>
<p>The site was there this morning and the following URL would have found it&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&#038;friendID=199945570" rel="nofollow">http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&#038;friendID=199945570</a></p>
<p>Now all it says is &#8230;</p>
<p>This user has either cancelled their membership, or their account has been deleted. </p>
<p>===========</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why.  I didn&#8217;t find anything spooky on that particular page &#8211; even though I noted that Kevin Rudd was listed as a friend yesterday &#8211; but not this morning..</p>
<p>I guess a lawyer is acting under the authority of the author.  There was nothing on the web page that invited people towards arson.  There were a few simple words about sex but nothing offensive.</p>
<p> Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/safer-internet-day-2009-is-february-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3788</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum: The suppression order which it seems only applied in Victoria has been lifted.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25060493-5018722,00.html

February 16, 2009 

Article from:  Australian Associated Press 

A COURT has lifted the suppression order on naming the man charged over a fatal bushfire at Churchill in Victoria&#039;s southeast.

 Bob

There&#039;s quite a bit to consider regarding this from the viewpoint of censorship.

For instance should the press draw conclusions and publish them from social networking sites if a person has been charged but not convicted ?

Should a person charged be free to continue to operate a social networking site and possibly ccomment on charges brought before him/her ?

Should the mandatory filtering scheme block sites of those charged with criminal offences ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum: The suppression order which it seems only applied in Victoria has been lifted.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25060493-5018722,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25060493-5018722,00.html</a></p>
<p>February 16, 2009 </p>
<p>Article from:  Australian Associated Press </p>
<p>A COURT has lifted the suppression order on naming the man charged over a fatal bushfire at Churchill in Victoria&#8217;s southeast.</p>
<p> Bob</p>
<p>There&#8217;s quite a bit to consider regarding this from the viewpoint of censorship.</p>
<p>For instance should the press draw conclusions and publish them from social networking sites if a person has been charged but not convicted ?</p>
<p>Should a person charged be free to continue to operate a social networking site and possibly ccomment on charges brought before him/her ?</p>
<p>Should the mandatory filtering scheme block sites of those charged with criminal offences ?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/safer-internet-day-2009-is-february-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3786</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a slightly distaceful note I note the alleged Victorian arssonist was named in the Sydney Daily Telegraph on Friday complete with some items extracted from what is alleged to be his social networking page - in this case I believe it was Facebook.

I noted that the ALLEGED arsonist (who seemingly has also been charged with one count of possessing Child Pornography) appears to have other social networking pages including myspace and I quote from this WordPress blog

http://frigginloon.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/victoria-fire-arsonist-responsible-for-21-deaths-arrested/

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&quot;Footnote: The Churchill Arsonist was named on this blog via the comments but in respect to the Victorian Court Order I will not mention his name (you’ll have to have a peek at the comments). Lets just say his American social networking site is creepy to say the least.

I’M JUST SAYING : Kaz has just informed the Loons that the arsonist’s Myspace page lists Kevin Rudd as a friend! I checked, it is true!!!!! Watch his page disappear.&quot;

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 They Sydney Daily Telegraph on Friday weren&#039;t as apologetic (one of the pages had a full pace photograph of the alleged arsonist)

 Whether the myspace entries disappears or not is a matter for conjecture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a slightly distaceful note I note the alleged Victorian arssonist was named in the Sydney Daily Telegraph on Friday complete with some items extracted from what is alleged to be his social networking page &#8211; in this case I believe it was Facebook.</p>
<p>I noted that the ALLEGED arsonist (who seemingly has also been charged with one count of possessing Child Pornography) appears to have other social networking pages including myspace and I quote from this WordPress blog</p>
<p><a href="http://frigginloon.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/victoria-fire-arsonist-responsible-for-21-deaths-arrested/" rel="nofollow">http://frigginloon.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/victoria-fire-arsonist-responsible-for-21-deaths-arrested/</a></p>
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<p>&#8220;Footnote: The Churchill Arsonist was named on this blog via the comments but in respect to the Victorian Court Order I will not mention his name (you’ll have to have a peek at the comments). Lets just say his American social networking site is creepy to say the least.</p>
<p>I’M JUST SAYING : Kaz has just informed the Loons that the arsonist’s Myspace page lists Kevin Rudd as a friend! I checked, it is true!!!!! Watch his page disappear.&#8221;</p>
<p> ================</p>
<p> They Sydney Daily Telegraph on Friday weren&#8217;t as apologetic (one of the pages had a full pace photograph of the alleged arsonist)</p>
<p> Whether the myspace entries disappears or not is a matter for conjecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Seymour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Seymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with you, Mike. Undoubtedly the $44 million dollars is better spent on many other things, but it is counterproductive to to even think that this is an opportunity to be exploited - it isn&#039;t. I also agree that criticism of Conroy&#039;s press release is unfounded.

That said, I agree with the criticism of Rudd made by Greg ? in Crikey today about Rudd&#039;s populist appeal to the hatred of witches when it has yet to be clearly established whether arsonists are largely responsible for the fires. This is the same brand of demagoguery that we saw on display during the Bill Henson
fiasco. We deserve better from our so-called leaders.

jon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with you, Mike. Undoubtedly the $44 million dollars is better spent on many other things, but it is counterproductive to to even think that this is an opportunity to be exploited &#8211; it isn&#8217;t. I also agree that criticism of Conroy&#8217;s press release is unfounded.</p>
<p>That said, I agree with the criticism of Rudd made by Greg ? in Crikey today about Rudd&#8217;s populist appeal to the hatred of witches when it has yet to be clearly established whether arsonists are largely responsible for the fires. This is the same brand of demagoguery that we saw on display during the Bill Henson<br />
fiasco. We deserve better from our so-called leaders.</p>
<p>jon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bob,

My comment about using the bushfire as a political bargaining tool was directed at those persons on Twitter telling the gov to drop their $128 million cyber-safety budget on bushfire victims (as mentioned by Stormwarden and Danu above).

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob,</p>
<p>My comment about using the bushfire as a political bargaining tool was directed at those persons on Twitter telling the gov to drop their $128 million cyber-safety budget on bushfire victims (as mentioned by Stormwarden and Danu above).</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The person who &quot;acted insensitively in light of the Victoria bushfire disaster&quot; was Duncan Riley..

http://www.duncanriley.com/

Ode to the dead
by duncan on February 9, 2009

As the sun sets over Victoria
let us remember those who have fallen.

Those who lived an Australian dream

The retired, first home owners and those in between.

Let us forever remember that even in the digital age we were unable to save them.
and lets us respect them by learning from the disaster.

We cannot raise the dead but we can learn from their deaths.

let us learn in years to come better ways of saving the living.

At this dark time we remember the fallen like those who fell before them and know that together we can make this country better.

May generations hence remember this time and those that have died if only as a beacon as to why we should always strive to advance civilization and the safety it should, and always must provide.

===========

 Bob

Duncan seems quite emotional and it doesn&#039;t sound like a &quot;political bargaining tool&quot; to me.

&quot;Let us forever remember that even in the digital age we were unable to save them.
and lets us respect them by learning from the disaster.&quot;

There was silence in the parliament yesterday as politicians from both sides of parliament considered that the things they discuss and argue over can at times be seen as not as important as the disasters that nature can bring with it.

Like King Canute neither they nor the digital economy can assist.

I believe Duncan was writing from the heart and it most certainly isn&#039;t IMHO a &quot;political ploy&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The person who &#8220;acted insensitively in light of the Victoria bushfire disaster&#8221; was Duncan Riley..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.duncanriley.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.duncanriley.com/</a></p>
<p>Ode to the dead<br />
by duncan on February 9, 2009</p>
<p>As the sun sets over Victoria<br />
let us remember those who have fallen.</p>
<p>Those who lived an Australian dream</p>
<p>The retired, first home owners and those in between.</p>
<p>Let us forever remember that even in the digital age we were unable to save them.<br />
and lets us respect them by learning from the disaster.</p>
<p>We cannot raise the dead but we can learn from their deaths.</p>
<p>let us learn in years to come better ways of saving the living.</p>
<p>At this dark time we remember the fallen like those who fell before them and know that together we can make this country better.</p>
<p>May generations hence remember this time and those that have died if only as a beacon as to why we should always strive to advance civilization and the safety it should, and always must provide.</p>
<p>===========</p>
<p> Bob</p>
<p>Duncan seems quite emotional and it doesn&#8217;t sound like a &#8220;political bargaining tool&#8221; to me.</p>
<p>&#8220;Let us forever remember that even in the digital age we were unable to save them.<br />
and lets us respect them by learning from the disaster.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was silence in the parliament yesterday as politicians from both sides of parliament considered that the things they discuss and argue over can at times be seen as not as important as the disasters that nature can bring with it.</p>
<p>Like King Canute neither they nor the digital economy can assist.</p>
<p>I believe Duncan was writing from the heart and it most certainly isn&#8217;t IMHO a &#8220;political ploy&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments guys. All good points. 

As I mentioned on Twitter, we don&#039;t need to use this disaster as a political bargaining tool to defeat the cleanfeed. It might be well intended, but it&#039;s unnecessary and unfair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments guys. All good points. </p>
<p>As I mentioned on Twitter, we don&#8217;t need to use this disaster as a political bargaining tool to defeat the cleanfeed. It might be well intended, but it&#8217;s unnecessary and unfair.</p>
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		<title>By: stormwarden</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormwarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I to also agree 100% with Mike, and I commented to this effect over on the article about the &#039;insensitive&#039; press release.

I had a bit of a rant on twitter last night. In my opinion, sprouting incorrect information is less likely for those watching to take the message seriously.  The only part of the entire plan that is bad is the filtering.  Take that away, spend the money on more initiatives like this day, more education.

I also disagree with those on twitter who think the day should be cancelled because of the events occuring in Victoria. With Australia being one of 50 countries involved, wouldn&#039;t it be better to still proceed? A global initiative, a global message is more powerful the more that are involved. And those thinking of Victoria also aren&#039;t thinking of those in North Queensland who are inundated with flooding.

I do hope that a large number of schools and children participate. The more that do, the more likely the education message will be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to also agree 100% with Mike, and I commented to this effect over on the article about the &#8216;insensitive&#8217; press release.</p>
<p>I had a bit of a rant on twitter last night. In my opinion, sprouting incorrect information is less likely for those watching to take the message seriously.  The only part of the entire plan that is bad is the filtering.  Take that away, spend the money on more initiatives like this day, more education.</p>
<p>I also disagree with those on twitter who think the day should be cancelled because of the events occuring in Victoria. With Australia being one of 50 countries involved, wouldn&#8217;t it be better to still proceed? A global initiative, a global message is more powerful the more that are involved. And those thinking of Victoria also aren&#8217;t thinking of those in North Queensland who are inundated with flooding.</p>
<p>I do hope that a large number of schools and children participate. The more that do, the more likely the education message will be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Conan1989</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conan1989</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arrrh! fiddle sticks!

So Conroy has got his spin doctors to rename &quot;ISP level filtering[censorship]&quot; with &quot;content filtering&quot; to presumably confuse the fact that the Internet is not a broadcast medium.

TV, movies have content regulation, so why not the Internet, very cleaver, very sly.

Only way to counter this is to reinforce that the Internet is not a broadcast medium, but a network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arrrh! fiddle sticks!</p>
<p>So Conroy has got his spin doctors to rename &#8220;ISP level filtering[censorship]&#8221; with &#8220;content filtering&#8221; to presumably confuse the fact that the Internet is not a broadcast medium.</p>
<p>TV, movies have content regulation, so why not the Internet, very cleaver, very sly.</p>
<p>Only way to counter this is to reinforce that the Internet is not a broadcast medium, but a network.</p>
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		<title>By: Danu Poyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danu Poyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree Mike. The hysteria from those opposed to content filtering that so often surrounds this issue is off the mark and gets us nowhere. 

Unfortunately, all those retweetings on Twitter flying around today saying the Cyber-Safety Plan money should be spent on bushfire relief show a remarkable (even wilful perhaps?) ignorance of how government policy actually works and help reinforce the perception of opponents as crazy libertarians.

It&#039;s worth reminding people also that of the $128m for the plan, only $44m is marked for content filtering. The rest of it all seems quite reasonable.

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree Mike. The hysteria from those opposed to content filtering that so often surrounds this issue is off the mark and gets us nowhere. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, all those retweetings on Twitter flying around today saying the Cyber-Safety Plan money should be spent on bushfire relief show a remarkable (even wilful perhaps?) ignorance of how government policy actually works and help reinforce the perception of opponents as crazy libertarians.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth reminding people also that of the $128m for the plan, only $44m is marked for content filtering. The rest of it all seems quite reasonable.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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