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	<title>Comments on: Legal adult websites blacklisted: AbbyWinters and The Hun banned</title>
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		<title>By: Fred D</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/legal-adult-websites-blacklisted-abbywinters-and-the-hun-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-6943</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of you people are out of your minds, thinks about this, i have been the adult industry for 17 years, i can tell you right now and i can prove it if need be. When xxx Porn DVD come into this country who do the importors pay custom tax to, who else but the goverment. 99% of people have sex, everyone knows about sex. Sex and porn does not destroy people, drugs, gambling, and goverments destroy lifes. people grow up and look at the people that make the laws what a load of rubbish my god</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of you people are out of your minds, thinks about this, i have been the adult industry for 17 years, i can tell you right now and i can prove it if need be. When xxx Porn DVD come into this country who do the importors pay custom tax to, who else but the goverment. 99% of people have sex, everyone knows about sex. Sex and porn does not destroy people, drugs, gambling, and goverments destroy lifes. people grow up and look at the people that make the laws what a load of rubbish my god</p>
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		<title>By: AUSTRALALIEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>AUSTRALALIEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What interesting comments from a variety of views. I agree with most people about the inclusion of Abbey Winters web site being on an Aussie black-list. I&#039;m not surprised, our Prime Minister is a wowzer of the Ninth Degree. Much like the misinformed Carol, who probably has sex in the dark with her nightie on (that&#039;s if she is married of course). Or a nun from the last century.

Why is it that we can show people getting killed, but not show people having sex? Wouldn&#039;t you prefer love over death.

I notice that one comment had absolutely nothing to do with the censorship debate. Just a diatribe of Right Wing Anarchist nonsense calling himself - Kevin. He&#039;s a person who believes in death over love and should be told to go and fuck himself with a very large cannon. We do not need his ilk around in this world, the rotten Fascist pig dog bastard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What interesting comments from a variety of views. I agree with most people about the inclusion of Abbey Winters web site being on an Aussie black-list. I&#8217;m not surprised, our Prime Minister is a wowzer of the Ninth Degree. Much like the misinformed Carol, who probably has sex in the dark with her nightie on (that&#8217;s if she is married of course). Or a nun from the last century.</p>
<p>Why is it that we can show people getting killed, but not show people having sex? Wouldn&#8217;t you prefer love over death.</p>
<p>I notice that one comment had absolutely nothing to do with the censorship debate. Just a diatribe of Right Wing Anarchist nonsense calling himself &#8211; Kevin. He&#8217;s a person who believes in death over love and should be told to go and fuck himself with a very large cannon. We do not need his ilk around in this world, the rotten Fascist pig dog bastard.</p>
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		<title>By: Reason A Bubble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reason A Bubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets face it - Garion has turned Abby Winters into a classic example of how to duplicate and spam your content under as many different product names as you can muster.

It&#039;s the oldest trick in the book and although it provides turn over I doubt if it will keep said site at the top of the heap when Web 3.0 really starts to kick it hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets face it &#8211; Garion has turned Abby Winters into a classic example of how to duplicate and spam your content under as many different product names as you can muster.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the oldest trick in the book and although it provides turn over I doubt if it will keep said site at the top of the heap when Web 3.0 really starts to kick it hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Iamcuriousblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iamcuriousblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don writes:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Abby Winters sticks out here a bit for two reasons. 1) Its a soft-core site, that is it doesnt feature penetrative couple sex.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s an oddly heteronormative way of looking at the site. AW actually has copious pictures and videos of female/female couples having sex, much of which could be said to be &quot;penetrative&quot; even if it doesn&#039;t involve cock.

But anyway, its not like there&#039;s anything wrong with showing penetrative couple sex of any gender combination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don writes:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Abby Winters sticks out here a bit for two reasons. 1) Its a soft-core site, that is it doesnt feature penetrative couple sex.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s an oddly heteronormative way of looking at the site. AW actually has copious pictures and videos of female/female couples having sex, much of which could be said to be &#8220;penetrative&#8221; even if it doesn&#8217;t involve cock.</p>
<p>But anyway, its not like there&#8217;s anything wrong with showing penetrative couple sex of any gender combination.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Rye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Rye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ACMA list includes material likely to be rated X18+ (much of the content on the site described) even though that content would be perfectly legal sold on a DVD from the NT or the ACT.

There is some content on the site that would be RC. 

Never mind that it&#039;s entirely harmless.

Thus, it&#039;s not a mistake the site is on the blacklist, it&#039;s potentially a mistake with what constitutes a blacklist though. Why should media that is legal to own be illegal to view on the internet? Do they honestly think it&#039;s going to make a difference when it&#039;s legal in the US to make and host it ? We borrow all their copyright laws, why not their content laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACMA list includes material likely to be rated X18+ (much of the content on the site described) even though that content would be perfectly legal sold on a DVD from the NT or the ACT.</p>
<p>There is some content on the site that would be RC. </p>
<p>Never mind that it&#8217;s entirely harmless.</p>
<p>Thus, it&#8217;s not a mistake the site is on the blacklist, it&#8217;s potentially a mistake with what constitutes a blacklist though. Why should media that is legal to own be illegal to view on the internet? Do they honestly think it&#8217;s going to make a difference when it&#8217;s legal in the US to make and host it ? We borrow all their copyright laws, why not their content laws?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you expect with a Socialist Totalitarian thinking government?...they are adherents to the Communist/Marxist/Soviet mindset...they &quot;know whats right for you&quot;...meanwhile over 20 million were killed in the process...fight Marxists, fight Socialists, fight the filthy left because they are the greatest threat to a free society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect with a Socialist Totalitarian thinking government?&#8230;they are adherents to the Communist/Marxist/Soviet mindset&#8230;they &#8220;know whats right for you&#8221;&#8230;meanwhile over 20 million were killed in the process&#8230;fight Marxists, fight Socialists, fight the filthy left because they are the greatest threat to a free society.</p>
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		<title>By: paladisious</title>
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		<dc:creator>paladisious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The internet is a pull medium.&quot; lol

Seriously though, someone on here has to &quot;creap&quot; back into the last century... McCarthy &#039;11!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The internet is a pull medium.&#8221; lol</p>
<p>Seriously though, someone on here has to &#8220;creap&#8221; back into the last century&#8230; McCarthy &#8216;11!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Billington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Billington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, all these kinds of bans are going to achieve is to create a boom in people paying for anonymous proxy server access so they can surf freely round the world without government interference.
The problem is that this is exactly the kind of technology that terrorists use and at present it stands out when someone uses it. The more people who start using it, the harder it will be for our security services to track down the real bad guys.
Bin Laden or Abby Winters ? I vote that they spend all their time on Bin Laden !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, all these kinds of bans are going to achieve is to create a boom in people paying for anonymous proxy server access so they can surf freely round the world without government interference.<br />
The problem is that this is exactly the kind of technology that terrorists use and at present it stands out when someone uses it. The more people who start using it, the harder it will be for our security services to track down the real bad guys.<br />
Bin Laden or Abby Winters ? I vote that they spend all their time on Bin Laden !</p>
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		<title>By: rustypumpkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>rustypumpkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 11:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really people have to realise that this has nothing to do with saving children from porn. Its their way of removing alternative media sources and freedom fighters from speaking out. People are now finding out the truth through sites like infowars.com and prisonplanet.tv and renegade videos on youtube.com 

Funny thing is these videos on youtube.com which provide people with the truth that the banking elite don&#039;t want you to see are being removed systematically. Same as wikipedia. Content about the Bilderberg group is being constantly edited out. Type in Bilderberg Group on youtube.com and get educated. 

By the way... think of the little things that make their way on mainstream media. Riot squads being hailed as heroes on 60 minutes, the government expanding the military to the same as WWII, people being enlisted as civilian corps, the bullshit about the swine flu and the stockpiling of &quot;tamiflu&quot; tablets (do you know who use to be the president of the company that makes these tablets....Donald &quot;I swear Iraq has WMD&quot; Rumsfield. Bet you didnt know that or the fact that swine flu was created intentionally and tested on US soldiers on US military bases in the 70s.

So get educated people 
infowars.com
prisonplanet.tv
Nufff_Respect channel on youtube.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really people have to realise that this has nothing to do with saving children from porn. Its their way of removing alternative media sources and freedom fighters from speaking out. People are now finding out the truth through sites like infowars.com and prisonplanet.tv and renegade videos on youtube.com </p>
<p>Funny thing is these videos on youtube.com which provide people with the truth that the banking elite don&#8217;t want you to see are being removed systematically. Same as wikipedia. Content about the Bilderberg group is being constantly edited out. Type in Bilderberg Group on youtube.com and get educated. </p>
<p>By the way&#8230; think of the little things that make their way on mainstream media. Riot squads being hailed as heroes on 60 minutes, the government expanding the military to the same as WWII, people being enlisted as civilian corps, the bullshit about the swine flu and the stockpiling of &#8220;tamiflu&#8221; tablets (do you know who use to be the president of the company that makes these tablets&#8230;.Donald &#8220;I swear Iraq has WMD&#8221; Rumsfield. Bet you didnt know that or the fact that swine flu was created intentionally and tested on US soldiers on US military bases in the 70s.</p>
<p>So get educated people<br />
infowars.com<br />
prisonplanet.tv<br />
Nufff_Respect channel on youtube.com</p>
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		<title>By: OtherBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>OtherBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what is the government going to do about the commercial TV channels propagating unrealistic body goals, spreading greed and consumerism etc.
What does more damage to the children, a potential stumbling across nudity, or the &quot;Bratz&quot; dolls teaching under 5YO girls to use makeup and be sexy for the boys?
The whole issue of &quot;prtecting children&quot; is nothing but a veiled attempt at introducing censorship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what is the government going to do about the commercial TV channels propagating unrealistic body goals, spreading greed and consumerism etc.<br />
What does more damage to the children, a potential stumbling across nudity, or the &#8220;Bratz&#8221; dolls teaching under 5YO girls to use makeup and be sexy for the boys?<br />
The whole issue of &#8220;prtecting children&#8221; is nothing but a veiled attempt at introducing censorship.</p>
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