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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/kevin-rudd-wants-turbocharged-broadband-for-the-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-2046</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/22/2397620.htm

The Federal Government&#039;s &quot;education revolution&quot; has come under attack from one of its own backbenchers.

In an outburst in Parliament, New South Wales MP Julia Irwin called for a massive Commonwealth allocation of resources for public schools. 

Ms Irwin attacked the Government&#039;s plan to compare school performance standards. 

She said the education changes proposed by Labor so far were hardly a revolution. 

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http://news.theage.com.au/national/education-revolution-on-track-gillard-20081022-569e.html

 October 22nd. 2008

NSW Labor MP Julia Irwin told parliament on Tuesday the phrase &quot;education revolution&quot; was a misnomer because the Rudd government was locking-in the coalition&#039;s favouritism of private schools through its funding legislation.

&quot;It seems to me that the national reform agenda has been put on hold for four years and the real education revolution is a long, long way off,&quot; Ms Irwin said.

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 http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/australia/australia-quotes-6133.html

&quot;It seems to me that the national reform agenda has been put on hold for four years and the real education revolution is a long, long way off.&quot; - NSW Labor MP Julia Irwin hits out at her party&#039;s education policy.

&quot;That education revolution has died in the Bay of Pigs.&quot; - Liberal MP Stuart Robert says the government&#039;s education revolution ended before it began.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24535126-5005961,00.html

Rudd &#039;has education mess on his hands&#039;

 hum...</description>
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<p>The Federal Government&#8217;s &#8220;education revolution&#8221; has come under attack from one of its own backbenchers.</p>
<p>In an outburst in Parliament, New South Wales MP Julia Irwin called for a massive Commonwealth allocation of resources for public schools. </p>
<p>Ms Irwin attacked the Government&#8217;s plan to compare school performance standards. </p>
<p>She said the education changes proposed by Labor so far were hardly a revolution. </p>
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<p><a href="http://news.theage.com.au/national/education-revolution-on-track-gillard-20081022-569e.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.theage.com.au/national/education-revolution-on-track-gillard-20081022-569e.html</a></p>
<p> October 22nd. 2008</p>
<p>NSW Labor MP Julia Irwin told parliament on Tuesday the phrase &#8220;education revolution&#8221; was a misnomer because the Rudd government was locking-in the coalition&#8217;s favouritism of private schools through its funding legislation.</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems to me that the national reform agenda has been put on hold for four years and the real education revolution is a long, long way off,&#8221; Ms Irwin said.</p>
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 <a href="http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/australia/australia-quotes-6133.html" rel="nofollow">http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/australia/australia-quotes-6133.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It seems to me that the national reform agenda has been put on hold for four years and the real education revolution is a long, long way off.&#8221; &#8211; NSW Labor MP Julia Irwin hits out at her party&#8217;s education policy.</p>
<p>&#8220;That education revolution has died in the Bay of Pigs.&#8221; &#8211; Liberal MP Stuart Robert says the government&#8217;s education revolution ended before it began.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24535126-5005961,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24535126-5005961,00.html</a></p>
<p>Rudd &#8216;has education mess on his hands&#8217;</p>
<p> hum&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/kevin-rudd-wants-turbocharged-broadband-for-the-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s revisit the site mentioned in the Somebody Think of the Children blog

http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/filter-vendors-smiling-ready-to-cash-in/

 which points to (amongst other items)...

 http://www.commsday.com/node/279

&quot;Soul executive chairman David Teoh dropped the bombshell today, claiming that Australia doesn&#039;t even need a fibre rollout. &quot;This is not a decision which has been taken lightly but, at this time, we believe that Soul&#039;s funds and resources are best employed in delivering great value products and services to Australian consumers,&quot; said Teoh. 

&quot;Soul is not convinced about the immediate need for a national broadband network especially in the current economic climate. With more than 300,000 broadband subscribers including 180,000 subscribers using TPG&#039;s high speed ADSL2+, Soul is a large participant in the broadband market in Australia. Currently, our ADSL2+ customers can obtain a connection speed averaging in excess of 14Mbps, which is faster than the base speed being sought for the NBN.&quot;

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Luke Coleman at Friday 5pm AEST
October 24th, 2008
 
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 refer also to this item (which I posted to the ACS ELSIC (Australian Computer Society Economic Legal and Social Implications Committee) mailing list on the 30th November 2007

http://business.smh.com.au/aapt-asks-who-wants-highspeed/20071129-1drs.html

AAPT asks: who wants high-speed?
Matt O&#039;Sullivan 
November 30, 2007 

AUSTRALIA&#039;s third-largest telephone company, AAPT-PowerTel, has cast doubt on consumers&#039; demand for higher broadband speeds from a planned $8 billion national network, arguing that it could become a &quot;white elephant&quot; if the process is rushed.

The new Labor government has given top priority to building a high-speed broadband network as part of a public-private partnership, offering speeds of at least 12 megabits per second to 98 per cent of the population within five years.

But AAPT-PowerTel&#039;s chief executive, Paul Broad, said consumers in markets overseas have yet to show much demand for broadband speeds
faster than 8 megabits per second.

&quot;The fundamental question is, &#039;what is the demand&#039;?&quot; he told the Herald. &quot;And if they do want it, why would you need a government to subsidise it?&quot;

His comments came as the prime minister-elect, Kevin Rudd, yesterday named Stephen Conroy as minister for communications, broadband and the
digital economy.

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 Bob

 A (mostly) satisfied customer of TPG and listed as a member of ELSIC..

 ( http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm?action=show&amp;conID=acselsic )

 refer also the ACS &quot;Regulation of the Internet&quot; page

http://www.acs.org.au/boards/cab/regulation.html

&quot;This page was last updated on: 18 November 1999&quot; (prior to the new dark age of media rhetoric and only moderately useful regulation)

 Please note that any opinions expressed are mine unless otherwise indicated and NOT necessarily the views of any organisation of which I&#039;m a member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s revisit the site mentioned in the Somebody Think of the Children blog</p>
<p><a href="http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/filter-vendors-smiling-ready-to-cash-in/" rel="nofollow">http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/filter-vendors-smiling-ready-to-cash-in/</a></p>
<p> which points to (amongst other items)&#8230;</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.commsday.com/node/279" rel="nofollow">http://www.commsday.com/node/279</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Soul executive chairman David Teoh dropped the bombshell today, claiming that Australia doesn&#8217;t even need a fibre rollout. &#8220;This is not a decision which has been taken lightly but, at this time, we believe that Soul&#8217;s funds and resources are best employed in delivering great value products and services to Australian consumers,&#8221; said Teoh. </p>
<p>&#8220;Soul is not convinced about the immediate need for a national broadband network especially in the current economic climate. With more than 300,000 broadband subscribers including 180,000 subscribers using TPG&#8217;s high speed ADSL2+, Soul is a large participant in the broadband market in Australia. Currently, our ADSL2+ customers can obtain a connection speed averaging in excess of 14Mbps, which is faster than the base speed being sought for the NBN.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Luke Coleman at Friday 5pm AEST<br />
October 24th, 2008</p>
<p> =======================</p>
<p> refer also to this item (which I posted to the ACS ELSIC (Australian Computer Society Economic Legal and Social Implications Committee) mailing list on the 30th November 2007</p>
<p><a href="http://business.smh.com.au/aapt-asks-who-wants-highspeed/20071129-1drs.html" rel="nofollow">http://business.smh.com.au/aapt-asks-who-wants-highspeed/20071129-1drs.html</a></p>
<p>AAPT asks: who wants high-speed?<br />
Matt O&#8217;Sullivan<br />
November 30, 2007 </p>
<p>AUSTRALIA&#8217;s third-largest telephone company, AAPT-PowerTel, has cast doubt on consumers&#8217; demand for higher broadband speeds from a planned $8 billion national network, arguing that it could become a &#8220;white elephant&#8221; if the process is rushed.</p>
<p>The new Labor government has given top priority to building a high-speed broadband network as part of a public-private partnership, offering speeds of at least 12 megabits per second to 98 per cent of the population within five years.</p>
<p>But AAPT-PowerTel&#8217;s chief executive, Paul Broad, said consumers in markets overseas have yet to show much demand for broadband speeds<br />
faster than 8 megabits per second.</p>
<p>&#8220;The fundamental question is, &#8216;what is the demand&#8217;?&#8221; he told the Herald. &#8220;And if they do want it, why would you need a government to subsidise it?&#8221;</p>
<p>His comments came as the prime minister-elect, Kevin Rudd, yesterday named Stephen Conroy as minister for communications, broadband and the<br />
digital economy.</p>
<p> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p> Bob</p>
<p> A (mostly) satisfied customer of TPG and listed as a member of ELSIC..</p>
<p> ( <a href="http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm?action=show&#038;conID=acselsic" rel="nofollow">http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm?action=show&#038;conID=acselsic</a> )</p>
<p> refer also the ACS &#8220;Regulation of the Internet&#8221; page</p>
<p><a href="http://www.acs.org.au/boards/cab/regulation.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.acs.org.au/boards/cab/regulation.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;This page was last updated on: 18 November 1999&#8243; (prior to the new dark age of media rhetoric and only moderately useful regulation)</p>
<p> Please note that any opinions expressed are mine unless otherwise indicated and NOT necessarily the views of any organisation of which I&#8217;m a member.</p>
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		<title>By: Zannek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zannek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a contradiction. We both want to filter the net, slowing it to a crawl AND have higher-speed transfer rates? So in other words it will be exactly the same speed it is now, cost more, and deny us access to 4.95 billion completely innocent websites (assuming that the false filtering rate remains at 3%). Sounds like a great plan Ruddkipz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a contradiction. We both want to filter the net, slowing it to a crawl AND have higher-speed transfer rates? So in other words it will be exactly the same speed it is now, cost more, and deny us access to 4.95 billion completely innocent websites (assuming that the false filtering rate remains at 3%). Sounds like a great plan Ruddkipz.</p>
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		<title>By: RBS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do I get the feeling that what Rudd wants and what Fielding wants are two completely different things?

Either that, or he&#039;s hoping the turbocharged internet will balanced out the filter&#039;s ability to slow it down.

Think about it. A Filter that slows down internet AND a plan to boost the internet speed in Australia? What he wants is to create the filter to &quot;protect the kids&quot; and use the Fibre Optic High speed internet plan to boost the speed of the net to compensate.

Not that I think the plan will work, but I can see where his train of thought lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I get the feeling that what Rudd wants and what Fielding wants are two completely different things?</p>
<p>Either that, or he&#8217;s hoping the turbocharged internet will balanced out the filter&#8217;s ability to slow it down.</p>
<p>Think about it. A Filter that slows down internet AND a plan to boost the internet speed in Australia? What he wants is to create the filter to &#8220;protect the kids&#8221; and use the Fibre Optic High speed internet plan to boost the speed of the net to compensate.</p>
<p>Not that I think the plan will work, but I can see where his train of thought lies.</p>
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		<title>By: conan1989</title>
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		<dc:creator>conan1989</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what? a politician going back on his work, well I&#039;m shocked!

only way this censorship won&#039;t go through is if we make it so

Remember, remember the Fifth of November</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what? a politician going back on his work, well I&#8217;m shocked!</p>
<p>only way this censorship won&#8217;t go through is if we make it so</p>
<p>Remember, remember the Fifth of November</p>
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