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	<title>Comments on: Good News Week writer Ian Simmons on wowsers and outrage</title>
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		<title>By: Linda Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/ian-simmons-on-wowsers-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-6736</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I&#039;m from the US and live in a small town, called the biggest little city in the world.  I worked for a hospital that desided $$$ was more important than care so they got ride of all suport staff at the hospital, as I said this is a small town and I told my vet about the hospital and the loss of my job and why I would not be able to aford to declaw my cat, well she told her freimds and they told their freinds and at the drug store yesterday Barb asked me if my job was in safe, I said no. words of mouth is the strongest tool a community has ... hugs unemployed Grandma Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I&#8217;m from the US and live in a small town, called the biggest little city in the world.  I worked for a hospital that desided $$$ was more important than care so they got ride of all suport staff at the hospital, as I said this is a small town and I told my vet about the hospital and the loss of my job and why I would not be able to aford to declaw my cat, well she told her freimds and they told their freinds and at the drug store yesterday Barb asked me if my job was in safe, I said no. words of mouth is the strongest tool a community has &#8230; hugs unemployed Grandma Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Icaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Nicholas needs to have the definition of satire explained to him. And FTR, whether or not a joke is funny has no bearing on it&#039;s validity.

And Carl: the point was that due to our smaller population, alternatives are less abundant. That said, I didn&#039;t find any of Ian Simmons comments particularly insightful. Heath makes a far more compelling case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Nicholas needs to have the definition of satire explained to him. And FTR, whether or not a joke is funny has no bearing on it&#8217;s validity.</p>
<p>And Carl: the point was that due to our smaller population, alternatives are less abundant. That said, I didn&#8217;t find any of Ian Simmons comments particularly insightful. Heath makes a far more compelling case.</p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically, censorship all comes down to insecure people attempting to add validity to their own chosen views and/or lifestyles by forcing everyone else to live in accordance with them. As Mackay says in one of the articles linked to above, &quot;by removing the option to choose [we] no longer have to exercise any moral discretion&quot;. That&#039;s why religious groups are particularly aggressive when it comes to advocating censorship. Their beliefs are impossible to justify on a logical basis, so when they see someone else enjoying themselves in a way which they deem to be immoral, it poses a catastrophic threat to their entire worldview. As such, they must act to eradicate it in order to keep their elaborate system of so-called &quot;objective morality&quot; from falling down around them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, censorship all comes down to insecure people attempting to add validity to their own chosen views and/or lifestyles by forcing everyone else to live in accordance with them. As Mackay says in one of the articles linked to above, &#8220;by removing the option to choose [we] no longer have to exercise any moral discretion&#8221;. That&#8217;s why religious groups are particularly aggressive when it comes to advocating censorship. Their beliefs are impossible to justify on a logical basis, so when they see someone else enjoying themselves in a way which they deem to be immoral, it poses a catastrophic threat to their entire worldview. As such, they must act to eradicate it in order to keep their elaborate system of so-called &#8220;objective morality&#8221; from falling down around them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect people would cut The Chaser more slack if the joke were any one or more of:

1) Satirical
2) Original
3) Clever
4) Funny

Obviously the writers of The Chaser would want to pin the blame on some Australia-specific cultural trend, but I suspect simpler explanations fit better.

For examples of good satire, see The Onion and articles such as &quot;Area 5-Year-Old Has Tummy Cancer&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect people would cut The Chaser more slack if the joke were any one or more of:</p>
<p>1) Satirical<br />
2) Original<br />
3) Clever<br />
4) Funny</p>
<p>Obviously the writers of The Chaser would want to pin the blame on some Australia-specific cultural trend, but I suspect simpler explanations fit better.</p>
<p>For examples of good satire, see The Onion and articles such as &#8220;Area 5-Year-Old Has Tummy Cancer&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 06:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Which leads us back to the numbers thing — because of our relatively small population, vocal and indignant wowsers receive a greater share of voice than they would in countries like the US, where they can turn over and watch something else. &lt;/i&gt;

If &quot;wowserism&quot; is a personality trait then the relative proportion in any population would be equal. 

Wowserism is alive and well in the USA. Home of the strong, brave, and abstinance-only sex education.  Or try dropping the c-bomb on any broadcast medium overseen by the FCC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Which leads us back to the numbers thing — because of our relatively small population, vocal and indignant wowsers receive a greater share of voice than they would in countries like the US, where they can turn over and watch something else. </i></p>
<p>If &#8220;wowserism&#8221; is a personality trait then the relative proportion in any population would be equal. </p>
<p>Wowserism is alive and well in the USA. Home of the strong, brave, and abstinance-only sex education.  Or try dropping the c-bomb on any broadcast medium overseen by the FCC.</p>
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		<title>By: NiroZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>NiroZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s mostly just the chasers. They&#039;ve alienated pretty much everybody at some point or another, it&#039;s part of what they do, but not many people realise that.

And watching something for a sense of outrage is not just limited to australia. In america, they have right wing commentators that frequently go overboard. Unfortunately, they lack a sense of humor as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s mostly just the chasers. They&#8217;ve alienated pretty much everybody at some point or another, it&#8217;s part of what they do, but not many people realise that.</p>
<p>And watching something for a sense of outrage is not just limited to australia. In america, they have right wing commentators that frequently go overboard. Unfortunately, they lack a sense of humor as well.</p>
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