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	<title>Comments on: F.E.A.R. 2 fifth game ban this year, 2008 worst year yet</title>
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		<title>By: 3lood</title>
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		<dc:creator>3lood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way...if they can&#039;t get them down under they will just order it over the web...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way&#8230;if they can&#8217;t get them down under they will just order it over the web&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 3lood</title>
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		<dc:creator>3lood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i will just say that i&#039;ve senn a 14 year old boy play this game completely F.E.A.Rless :p and he never got any kind of mental unstability...take me as an example too, i haven&#039;t reached the age rated to the game...18 and stores who sells these games don&#039;t care about the age of their customers...they just want the money...rating the games are a waste of time and money &#039;cuz sellers just go for the money and not by age ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i will just say that i&#8217;ve senn a 14 year old boy play this game completely F.E.A.Rless :p and he never got any kind of mental unstability&#8230;take me as an example too, i haven&#8217;t reached the age rated to the game&#8230;18 and stores who sells these games don&#8217;t care about the age of their customers&#8230;they just want the money&#8230;rating the games are a waste of time and money &#8216;cuz sellers just go for the money and not by age ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: erik speers</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik speers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys should just move to america we can actually play these games w/o all the bans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys should just move to america we can actually play these games w/o all the bans.</p>
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		<title>By: AileenWuornos</title>
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		<dc:creator>AileenWuornos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“The violence is considered highly impactful in such scenes as where Michael uses his sub machine gun to explicitly bisect an enemy, the two parts of the body lying separately on the ground, with copious blood spray. There are also a number of explicit close range decapitations involving both human and mutant creatures. The decapitations are the result of close-up throat slashing from behind and close-up gunshots to the throat,” the Board report says.&quot;

Well, what do they seriously think someone shot with a submachine gun is going to look like? A couple of red dots and a nice little period sized puddle of blood? I don&#039;t think so.

I find it HILARIOUSLY frustrating that games like this are banned and yet the Australian Defense force is able to spend billions of dollars on advertising to get people to do this kind of thing FOR REAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“The violence is considered highly impactful in such scenes as where Michael uses his sub machine gun to explicitly bisect an enemy, the two parts of the body lying separately on the ground, with copious blood spray. There are also a number of explicit close range decapitations involving both human and mutant creatures. The decapitations are the result of close-up throat slashing from behind and close-up gunshots to the throat,” the Board report says.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, what do they seriously think someone shot with a submachine gun is going to look like? A couple of red dots and a nice little period sized puddle of blood? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>I find it HILARIOUSLY frustrating that games like this are banned and yet the Australian Defense force is able to spend billions of dollars on advertising to get people to do this kind of thing FOR REAL.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SkipEU: We almost had an R18+ rating introduced. Except one guy voted against it. Sucks, huh?</description>
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		<title>By: SkipEU</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkipEU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why just not introduce R18+ rating? Australia is one of the rare developed countries that iin 21st century still ban games and movies to protect adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why just not introduce R18+ rating? Australia is one of the rare developed countries that iin 21st century still ban games and movies to protect adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Leroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Christ&#039;s sake... This is just plain pathetic. The OFLC are so bloody two-faced. 

I&#039;d hate to see what they would do to the censored version of Manhunt 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Christ&#8217;s sake&#8230; This is just plain pathetic. The OFLC are so bloody two-faced. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d hate to see what they would do to the censored version of Manhunt 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Prukinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prukinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spikeles: ““You don’t need gory violence to tell a good story, so i wonder why it was put in there?”

Because the F.E.A.R. games draw heavily upon the visual language and ideas found in Japanese horror films, which are often chock full of gore and huge sprays of blood.  So, really, your question is like asking why you need to make a western with guns, a drama with conflict, or a comedy with jokes.  It&#039;s part of the genre, and it&#039;s a genre that is suffering more and more thanks to our lack of an R18+ rating.  They already refused classification for Silent Hill 5 this year and you can bet they will refuse it for an increasing number of horror titles in the future.

Also: stories are only one aspect of computer games.  Games will often tell a story, but if their primary purpose isn&#039;t to be a story telling medium.  If it was we&#039;d all have a hard time trying to explain the existence of puzzle games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spikeles: ““You don’t need gory violence to tell a good story, so i wonder why it was put in there?”</p>
<p>Because the F.E.A.R. games draw heavily upon the visual language and ideas found in Japanese horror films, which are often chock full of gore and huge sprays of blood.  So, really, your question is like asking why you need to make a western with guns, a drama with conflict, or a comedy with jokes.  It&#8217;s part of the genre, and it&#8217;s a genre that is suffering more and more thanks to our lack of an R18+ rating.  They already refused classification for Silent Hill 5 this year and you can bet they will refuse it for an increasing number of horror titles in the future.</p>
<p>Also: stories are only one aspect of computer games.  Games will often tell a story, but if their primary purpose isn&#8217;t to be a story telling medium.  If it was we&#8217;d all have a hard time trying to explain the existence of puzzle games.</p>
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		<title>By: Icaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spikeles: &quot;“Is this violence required to tell the story in a compelling way?”.. Probably not. You don’t need gory violence to tell a good story, so i wonder why it was put in there?&quot;

To be honest, I don&#039;t really understand your reasoning. Asking &#039;do you need ... ?&#039; of a writer or designer is ultimately moot as we don&#039;t *need* what they&#039;re creating at all. 

Attaching necessity to justify content is ultimately a personal judgement of the subjective qualities of the art-form. As such, asking &#039;do you need gore to tell a good story?&#039; is no more or less relevant than asking &#039;do you need to tell a story?&#039; or &#039;do you need to make a videogame at all?&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spikeles: &#8220;“Is this violence required to tell the story in a compelling way?”.. Probably not. You don’t need gory violence to tell a good story, so i wonder why it was put in there?&#8221;</p>
<p>To be honest, I don&#8217;t really understand your reasoning. Asking &#8216;do you need &#8230; ?&#8217; of a writer or designer is ultimately moot as we don&#8217;t *need* what they&#8217;re creating at all. </p>
<p>Attaching necessity to justify content is ultimately a personal judgement of the subjective qualities of the art-form. As such, asking &#8216;do you need gore to tell a good story?&#8217; is no more or less relevant than asking &#8216;do you need to tell a story?&#8217; or &#8216;do you need to make a videogame at all?&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lost all respect for the OFLC they are so inconsistent when rating games and movies. Ninja Gaiden 2, is probably one of the most goriest games i&#039;ve ever seen and it still crept through unaltered with a MA15+ rating. Plenty of horror films rated MA15+ (Saw series for example, is way more violent/gruesome than some of the games that had been banned). The big controversy according to the OFLC about Fallout 3 was not the graphic violence but rather the fact that they named a drug in the game after the real life drug Morphine.

We need this R18+ Rating more then ever and also the OFLC needs to be replaced with more competent and consisent raters.

I never really got into FEAR but how long will it be until a game i like (Resident Evil 5 maybe) gets banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lost all respect for the OFLC they are so inconsistent when rating games and movies. Ninja Gaiden 2, is probably one of the most goriest games i&#8217;ve ever seen and it still crept through unaltered with a MA15+ rating. Plenty of horror films rated MA15+ (Saw series for example, is way more violent/gruesome than some of the games that had been banned). The big controversy according to the OFLC about Fallout 3 was not the graphic violence but rather the fact that they named a drug in the game after the real life drug Morphine.</p>
<p>We need this R18+ Rating more then ever and also the OFLC needs to be replaced with more competent and consisent raters.</p>
<p>I never really got into FEAR but how long will it be until a game i like (Resident Evil 5 maybe) gets banned.</p>
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