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		<title>By: Towards a more rational debate. &#171; Mike The Participant</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3248</link>
		<dc:creator>Towards a more rational debate. &#171; Mike The Participant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3233</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@john&lt;/b&gt;

Apart from requiring the entire world to comply, why would violent content go on .xxx?</description>
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<p>Apart from requiring the entire world to comply, why would violent content go on .xxx?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Caddy</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3232</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Caddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Asmodai, @Joyce

Deborah Robinson&#039;s response to me (thank you for the well informed links to Somebody Think of the Children in the thread by the way) is deleting my account.

It appears that someone speaking from personal experience of child abuse doesn&#039;t work in her favour. Fortunately, Asmodai quoted my post in full and she has not deleted him (her?) yet.

What a repugnant woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Asmodai, @Joyce</p>
<p>Deborah Robinson&#8217;s response to me (thank you for the well informed links to Somebody Think of the Children in the thread by the way) is deleting my account.</p>
<p>It appears that someone speaking from personal experience of child abuse doesn&#8217;t work in her favour. Fortunately, Asmodai quoted my post in full and she has not deleted him (her?) yet.</p>
<p>What a repugnant woman.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3230</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just put all VIOLENT Video/music/Games on a .xxx domain, this will be easy to filter out.</description>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just put all violent video/music/game on a .xxx domain or whatever, simple as that it will be easy to filter then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just put all violent video/music/game on a .xxx domain or whatever, simple as that it will be easy to filter then.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeofMelb</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3220</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeofMelb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo:

I was probably (most certainly) **NOT** right of place targeting any criticism at Mark Newton. My apologies to you Mark, the reality is that I have no idea just how good you are at what you do and your levels of expertise. You have your full rights to campaign against what you disagree with. If I disagree with that then I should do that objectively, addressing the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo:</p>
<p>I was probably (most certainly) **NOT** right of place targeting any criticism at Mark Newton. My apologies to you Mark, the reality is that I have no idea just how good you are at what you do and your levels of expertise. You have your full rights to campaign against what you disagree with. If I disagree with that then I should do that objectively, addressing the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran 'websinthe' Salsone</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3212</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran 'websinthe' Salsone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage you to engage with this debate Mike. Changing your mind isn&#039;t a sign of weakness, it takes a great deal of strength to admit you may have been wrong about some things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage you to engage with this debate Mike. Changing your mind isn&#8217;t a sign of weakness, it takes a great deal of strength to admit you may have been wrong about some things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Seymour</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3211</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Seymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MikeOfMelb This is a welcome development indeed, and I appreciate that you have done this.

You need to be aware that I have started a new blog &quot;Mike The Participant&quot; which has collected 10+ of your previous posts around various places and put them in a context that allows the observant reader to notice many common threads, biases and, frankly, huge clues as to your real identity.

You need to assume that if you ever comment in future, we will know exactly who is behind the pseudonym. This will be true, even if you change pseudonyms because you can&#039;t completely change your online identity without ditching your lines of argument.

I hope now that your realise that your own professional reputation is in great peril, you will start to behave as if you had put your name on each post you make. I hope you will actually engage us in rational debate, instead of trolling us with the same, single-shot tired old arguments and blather.

As a gesture of good will, I will offer you the chance of a once-off anonymous post on MtP in which you can declare your interests and state your position. There really isn&#039;t much point in it being anonymous since a lot of people already have already guessed who you are, but if you have a reason to maintain the pretence of anonymity, that&#039;s your call.

Contact me at jon.seymour@gmail.com. I will, of course, respect your anonymity.

Mike The Participant can be found at: http://keepingthebastardshonest.net/blogs/miketheparticipant/

If nothing else, it may help refresh your memory of all the arguments you have raised in the past. 

BTW: I am going to suggest to all anti-filtering bloggers that we introduce a troll-hash. This will allow posts from the same e-mail address to be identified without compromising the anonymity of poster. This will help to avoid this kind of abuse of anonymity in the future.

Sincerely,

Jon Seymour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MikeOfMelb This is a welcome development indeed, and I appreciate that you have done this.</p>
<p>You need to be aware that I have started a new blog &#8220;Mike The Participant&#8221; which has collected 10+ of your previous posts around various places and put them in a context that allows the observant reader to notice many common threads, biases and, frankly, huge clues as to your real identity.</p>
<p>You need to assume that if you ever comment in future, we will know exactly who is behind the pseudonym. This will be true, even if you change pseudonyms because you can&#8217;t completely change your online identity without ditching your lines of argument.</p>
<p>I hope now that your realise that your own professional reputation is in great peril, you will start to behave as if you had put your name on each post you make. I hope you will actually engage us in rational debate, instead of trolling us with the same, single-shot tired old arguments and blather.</p>
<p>As a gesture of good will, I will offer you the chance of a once-off anonymous post on MtP in which you can declare your interests and state your position. There really isn&#8217;t much point in it being anonymous since a lot of people already have already guessed who you are, but if you have a reason to maintain the pretence of anonymity, that&#8217;s your call.</p>
<p>Contact me at <a href="mailto:jon.seymour@gmail.com">jon.seymour@gmail.com</a>. I will, of course, respect your anonymity.</p>
<p>Mike The Participant can be found at: <a href="http://keepingthebastardshonest.net/blogs/miketheparticipant/" rel="nofollow">http://keepingthebastardshonest.net/blogs/miketheparticipant/</a></p>
<p>If nothing else, it may help refresh your memory of all the arguments you have raised in the past. </p>
<p>BTW: I am going to suggest to all anti-filtering bloggers that we introduce a troll-hash. This will allow posts from the same e-mail address to be identified without compromising the anonymity of poster. This will help to avoid this kind of abuse of anonymity in the future.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Jon Seymour.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeofMelb</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3209</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeofMelb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK folks, many points taken and I will take a big step back and look at all of your comments.
.
I was probably (most certainly) right of place targeting any criticism at Mark Newton. My apologies to you Mark, the reality is that I have no idea just how good you are at what you do and your levels of expertise. You have your full rights to campaign against what you disagree with. If I disagree with that then I should do that objectively, addressing the issues.
.
It is not professional when we let our frustation at media mis-information get to us and then zing off at people. I just did that.
.
So I will revisit all the comments, the issues and the state of the game and respond.
.
BTW, I also do have some serious concerns about the qualifications and expertise of many of the people involved with running these tests, right up the chain...
.
In the meantime I will give the whole subject a rethink... 
Thanks
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK folks, many points taken and I will take a big step back and look at all of your comments.<br />
.<br />
I was probably (most certainly) right of place targeting any criticism at Mark Newton. My apologies to you Mark, the reality is that I have no idea just how good you are at what you do and your levels of expertise. You have your full rights to campaign against what you disagree with. If I disagree with that then I should do that objectively, addressing the issues.<br />
.<br />
It is not professional when we let our frustation at media mis-information get to us and then zing off at people. I just did that.<br />
.<br />
So I will revisit all the comments, the issues and the state of the game and respond.<br />
.<br />
BTW, I also do have some serious concerns about the qualifications and expertise of many of the people involved with running these tests, right up the chain&#8230;<br />
.<br />
In the meantime I will give the whole subject a rethink&#8230;<br />
Thanks<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/dbcde-still-evaluating-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,

Please note &#039;Mike from Melb&#039; &lt;b&gt;is not&lt;/b&gt; Mike (Michael Meloni) the creator of this blog. 

Cheers,
Michael Meloni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Please note &#8216;Mike from Melb&#8217; <b>is not</b> Mike (Michael Meloni) the creator of this blog. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Michael Meloni</p>
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