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	<title>Comments on: Conroy&#8217;s Office: Groups opposing filtering hold extreme views</title>
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		<title>By: I am an extremist : Sean the Blogonaut</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/conroys-office-groups-opposing-filtering-hold-extreme-views/comment-page-1/#comment-3122</link>
		<dc:creator>I am an extremist : Sean the Blogonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Interview: Internode&#8217;s Mark Newton talks filtering - Somebody Think Of The Children</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/conroys-office-groups-opposing-filtering-hold-extreme-views/comment-page-1/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>Interview: Internode&#8217;s Mark Newton talks filtering - Somebody Think Of The Children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Grubb (who copped a bit of flack for his interview with Tim Marshall) has interviewed Internode network engineer Mark Newton tonight. Mark is the guy who confirmed our [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Terrence Valter</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/conroys-office-groups-opposing-filtering-hold-extreme-views/comment-page-1/#comment-1608</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrence Valter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Michael.
Thanks to you and others like you this matter is finally starting to get some exposure.

I notice many comments on whirlpool, I think people opposed to this should join whirlpool, and make any information known to them.

Real knowledge will stop this bullying by government. It is apparent that the Minister&#039;s advisers have been completely taken in by the fanatics in the community who want to control what others do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Michael.<br />
Thanks to you and others like you this matter is finally starting to get some exposure.</p>
<p>I notice many comments on whirlpool, I think people opposed to this should join whirlpool, and make any information known to them.</p>
<p>Real knowledge will stop this bullying by government. It is apparent that the Minister&#8217;s advisers have been completely taken in by the fanatics in the community who want to control what others do.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very disturbing that the language on the DBCDE website assumes implementation before the success of trials is evaluated.

&lt;blockquote&gt;working with Australian Internet Service Providers (ISP) to make a filtered internet service available to all homes, schools and public internet points accessible by children—a laboratory trial of ISP filtering, followed by a real world live pilot, &lt;em&gt;will inform implementation&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/funding_programs__and__support/cyber-safety_plan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cyber Safety Plan&lt;/a&gt; page (emphasis added).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very disturbing that the language on the DBCDE website assumes implementation before the success of trials is evaluated.</p>
<blockquote><p>working with Australian Internet Service Providers (ISP) to make a filtered internet service available to all homes, schools and public internet points accessible by children—a laboratory trial of ISP filtering, followed by a real world live pilot, <em>will inform implementation</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/funding_programs__and__support/cyber-safety_plan" rel="nofollow">Cyber Safety Plan</a> page (emphasis added).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/conroys-office-groups-opposing-filtering-hold-extreme-views/comment-page-1/#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Ozan Onay:&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;m one of those twitter nerds :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Ozan Onay:</b> I&#8217;m one of those twitter nerds <img src='http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ozan Onay</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/conroys-office-groups-opposing-filtering-hold-extreme-views/comment-page-1/#comment-1598</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozan Onay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t help but laugh. &quot;Speculative coverage&quot; he says, eschewing any opportunity to resolve the speculation.

Meanwhile, ALP-sympathetic libertarian nerds are looking to @TurnbullMalcolm for some sort of guidance on the matter.

Absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but laugh. &#8220;Speculative coverage&#8221; he says, eschewing any opportunity to resolve the speculation.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, ALP-sympathetic libertarian nerds are looking to @TurnbullMalcolm for some sort of guidance on the matter.</p>
<p>Absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/conroys-office-groups-opposing-filtering-hold-extreme-views/comment-page-1/#comment-1581</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Coenraad van der Westhuizen&lt;/b&gt;: I couldn&#039;t say it better. His office continues to disregard the facts, not release information, and label the thousands of Australians opposed as criminals and extremists. It&#039;s pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Coenraad van der Westhuizen</b>: I couldn&#8217;t say it better. His office continues to disregard the facts, not release information, and label the thousands of Australians opposed as criminals and extremists. It&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Coenraad van der Westhuizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coenraad van der Westhuizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to be the typical response of Conroy&#039;s office to anyone who opposes their plans; first they called us paedophiles and now apparently we&#039;re political extremists. Perhaps if they spent less time coming up with derogatory labels and more time coming up with actual plans and evidence, we wouldn&#039;t have to rely on speculative reports.

I would also note that, despite decrying the speculative nature of the media coverage at the moment, Mr Marshall apparently didn&#039;t feel it was necessary to point out which claims, if any, are incorrect. &quot;I&#039;m not sure of the details&quot;, he says of the trial – truer words have not been spoken by Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be the typical response of Conroy&#8217;s office to anyone who opposes their plans; first they called us paedophiles and now apparently we&#8217;re political extremists. Perhaps if they spent less time coming up with derogatory labels and more time coming up with actual plans and evidence, we wouldn&#8217;t have to rely on speculative reports.</p>
<p>I would also note that, despite decrying the speculative nature of the media coverage at the moment, Mr Marshall apparently didn&#8217;t feel it was necessary to point out which claims, if any, are incorrect. &#8220;I&#8217;m not sure of the details&#8221;, he says of the trial – truer words have not been spoken by Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.</p>
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