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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/bloggers-wipe-out-mcmenamin/comment-page-1/#comment-3110</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Ms Naughty the OFLC can be really inconsistent with it ratings to video games especially. The fact that we dont have an R18+ rating is a major factor but that aside, games like Silent Hill: Homecoming that was RC&#039;ed is about as equally violent as Gears of War or even movies like Saw 4 which were both passed with an MA15+ rating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Ms Naughty the OFLC can be really inconsistent with it ratings to video games especially. The fact that we dont have an R18+ rating is a major factor but that aside, games like Silent Hill: Homecoming that was RC&#8217;ed is about as equally violent as Gears of War or even movies like Saw 4 which were both passed with an MA15+ rating.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Naughty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Naughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last quote is definitely ripe for picking apart. It&#039;s always rich to see the Catholic church suddenly caring about women when it comes to pornography, though it&#039;s happy to oppress them in a myriad of other ways. 

&quot;Research shows...&quot; What research? What about Catharine Lumby&#039;s Porn Report that shows most Australians are relaxed about porn and find it beneficial?

The pro-filter argument that filtering brings the net in line with Australia&#039;s existing classification system needs to be better addressed. 

My personal view is that Australia&#039;s existing system of classification needs to be thoroughly overhauled to reflect the community standards of 21st century Australia: namely that Aussies like porn, that it doesn&#039;t cause societal or personal harm and that consensual sexually explicit content should be legal to view no matter what media it comes in.

I would argue that, as it stands, the OFLC already tramples on our right to freedom of speech thanks to its ability to ban films by refusing classification. The classification system should be voluntary as it is in the US.

Essentially, it should not be up to the government or the OFLC to decide what I as an adult can view.

That should be the answer to the &quot;bringing into line&quot; argument - although I realise it may be considered a little too &quot;out there&quot; for some.

But if you think the current classification system is working, consider how the films of Tony Comstock were banned
http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2007/09/24/our-decision-is-final/
http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2006/09/08/an-open-letter-regarding-the-cancelled-queerdoc-screening-of-damon-and-hunter/
while other films like Destricted made it through because they were more &quot;serious&quot;. 

Do we really think the people at the OFLC are representing society&#039;s interests? What are they protecting us from?

We don&#039;t need to bring the internet into line with current restrictions on freedom of speech because those restrictions in and of themselves should not exist in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last quote is definitely ripe for picking apart. It&#8217;s always rich to see the Catholic church suddenly caring about women when it comes to pornography, though it&#8217;s happy to oppress them in a myriad of other ways. </p>
<p>&#8220;Research shows&#8230;&#8221; What research? What about Catharine Lumby&#8217;s Porn Report that shows most Australians are relaxed about porn and find it beneficial?</p>
<p>The pro-filter argument that filtering brings the net in line with Australia&#8217;s existing classification system needs to be better addressed. </p>
<p>My personal view is that Australia&#8217;s existing system of classification needs to be thoroughly overhauled to reflect the community standards of 21st century Australia: namely that Aussies like porn, that it doesn&#8217;t cause societal or personal harm and that consensual sexually explicit content should be legal to view no matter what media it comes in.</p>
<p>I would argue that, as it stands, the OFLC already tramples on our right to freedom of speech thanks to its ability to ban films by refusing classification. The classification system should be voluntary as it is in the US.</p>
<p>Essentially, it should not be up to the government or the OFLC to decide what I as an adult can view.</p>
<p>That should be the answer to the &#8220;bringing into line&#8221; argument &#8211; although I realise it may be considered a little too &#8220;out there&#8221; for some.</p>
<p>But if you think the current classification system is working, consider how the films of Tony Comstock were banned<br />
<a href="http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2007/09/24/our-decision-is-final/" rel="nofollow">http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2007/09/24/our-decision-is-final/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2006/09/08/an-open-letter-regarding-the-cancelled-queerdoc-screening-of-damon-and-hunter/" rel="nofollow">http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2006/09/08/an-open-letter-regarding-the-cancelled-queerdoc-screening-of-damon-and-hunter/</a><br />
while other films like Destricted made it through because they were more &#8220;serious&#8221;. </p>
<p>Do we really think the people at the OFLC are representing society&#8217;s interests? What are they protecting us from?</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need to bring the internet into line with current restrictions on freedom of speech because those restrictions in and of themselves should not exist in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/bloggers-wipe-out-mcmenamin/comment-page-1/#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as the Spoonman suggested, i can see it now, religious nutters from all across Australia getting together signing petitions and numerous complaints against all pornographic websites to be chucked onto the compulsory filter. Given that these people may make up a large section of the population the govt may have serious problems dealing with them and may simply just give in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as the Spoonman suggested, i can see it now, religious nutters from all across Australia getting together signing petitions and numerous complaints against all pornographic websites to be chucked onto the compulsory filter. Given that these people may make up a large section of the population the govt may have serious problems dealing with them and may simply just give in.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Bernadette would do well to stop drawing attention to herself. Questions regarding the quality of her oft-quoted statistics will soon turn to questions regarding the commonwealth funding Childwise receives. 

Bishop Peter Ingham must be pretty confident that Catholic or Christian views will never be censored. I can&#039;t decide if this is naive or sinister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Bernadette would do well to stop drawing attention to herself. Questions regarding the quality of her oft-quoted statistics will soon turn to questions regarding the commonwealth funding Childwise receives. </p>
<p>Bishop Peter Ingham must be pretty confident that Catholic or Christian views will never be censored. I can&#8217;t decide if this is naive or sinister.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At a gathering of Australian Catholic Bishops ....&quot;

Now there is a group of men who know a lot about pedophilia and degradation of women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At a gathering of Australian Catholic Bishops &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now there is a group of men who know a lot about pedophilia and degradation of women.</p>
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