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	<title>Comments on: Ban X-Rated porn for everyone, including adults: Family First</title>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t people just get on their lives, not many people want some nanny-state in their face, it&#039;s up to stupid parents to manage their ignorant kids, not some evangelical party that want&#039;s us to remain in the 1800&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t people just get on their lives, not many people want some nanny-state in their face, it&#8217;s up to stupid parents to manage their ignorant kids, not some evangelical party that want&#8217;s us to remain in the 1800&#8242;s</p>
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		<title>By: Sj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You stupid religious F**ks. you want us to live in some communist love fest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You stupid religious F**ks. you want us to live in some communist love fest</p>
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		<title>By: Steveo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steveo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical baby boomer pollies. Next they&#039;ll ban Interactive Entertainment because we should all read a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical baby boomer pollies. Next they&#8217;ll ban Interactive Entertainment because we should all read a book.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Luke. I saw that in my refs yesterday and have a post about it planned for tonight. Didn&#039;t get a chance to finish it last night. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Luke. I saw that in my refs yesterday and have a post about it planned for tonight. Didn&#8217;t get a chance to finish it last night. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is bad for freedom of religion too - I made a case against it from a Christian conservative point of view here: http://www.sydneyanglicans.net/forums/viewthread/3673/

A short version would be: Will the bible be banned for adult themes (particularly the Old Testament with massacres, war, rape etc) in the so-called clean feed? It&#039;s a two way street.

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Also, you can imagine how quickly the entertainment companies are going to jump on the bandwagon to &#039;catch&#039; people they believe are infringing copyright. I know the proposal doesn&#039;t include filtering p2p traffic, but web traffic should be enough to get &#039;em going. They already want ISP&#039;s to police their customers and impose a three-strikes and you&#039;re out rule, and they&#039;ve obviously been quite happy to sue their own customers in the US, so going after kids sharing stuff online will be priority #1 as soon as the infrastructure is there I imagine. 

Scary stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bad for freedom of religion too &#8211; I made a case against it from a Christian conservative point of view here: <a href="http://www.sydneyanglicans.net/forums/viewthread/3673/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sydneyanglicans.net/forums/viewthread/3673/</a></p>
<p>A short version would be: Will the bible be banned for adult themes (particularly the Old Testament with massacres, war, rape etc) in the so-called clean feed? It&#8217;s a two way street.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>Also, you can imagine how quickly the entertainment companies are going to jump on the bandwagon to &#8216;catch&#8217; people they believe are infringing copyright. I know the proposal doesn&#8217;t include filtering p2p traffic, but web traffic should be enough to get &#8216;em going. They already want ISP&#8217;s to police their customers and impose a three-strikes and you&#8217;re out rule, and they&#8217;ve obviously been quite happy to sue their own customers in the US, so going after kids sharing stuff online will be priority #1 as soon as the infrastructure is there I imagine. </p>
<p>Scary stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, the whole bill is there to buy Fielding&#039;s vote on other legislation.

Congratulations, Victorians who voted 1 above the line for the ALP in 2004 and who didn&#039;t bother checking where their votes were going. If the ALP had preferenced the Greens ahead of Fundies First, or if ALP voters had bothered to check what they were voting for, there&#039;d be one more Green, one less Fundy Firster, and this sort of shit would have no chance of getting through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, the whole bill is there to buy Fielding&#8217;s vote on other legislation.</p>
<p>Congratulations, Victorians who voted 1 above the line for the ALP in 2004 and who didn&#8217;t bother checking where their votes were going. If the ALP had preferenced the Greens ahead of Fundies First, or if ALP voters had bothered to check what they were voting for, there&#8217;d be one more Green, one less Fundy Firster, and this sort of shit would have no chance of getting through.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all your comments guys. Some really good points made here. As you might have guessed, I&#039;ve been tied up with filtering over the last week and haven&#039;t had a chance to respond individually to each comment. Sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your comments guys. Some really good points made here. As you might have guessed, I&#8217;ve been tied up with filtering over the last week and haven&#8217;t had a chance to respond individually to each comment. Sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: Shem Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shem Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only 2% of Victorians voted for Fielding. He didn&#039;t have that much support. But due to preference deals (including from the Democrats) he was elected off of that 2%.

Support for Family First ranges from about 1-5% around the country with their highest support coming from SA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 2% of Victorians voted for Fielding. He didn&#8217;t have that much support. But due to preference deals (including from the Democrats) he was elected off of that 2%.</p>
<p>Support for Family First ranges from about 1-5% around the country with their highest support coming from SA.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there we have the paradox which disempowers us. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech that we disagree with no matter how wrong headed and asinine it is. We can only hope those who hear it recognise it as such and treat it with the disdain and contempt it deserves. Unfortunately we cannot completely rely on our fellow citizens to display what we regard as basic intelligence. As I said before regarding Fielding, &#039;someone voted for him&#039;. 

Hold me, I&#039;m scared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there we have the paradox which disempowers us. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech that we disagree with no matter how wrong headed and asinine it is. We can only hope those who hear it recognise it as such and treat it with the disdain and contempt it deserves. Unfortunately we cannot completely rely on our fellow citizens to display what we regard as basic intelligence. As I said before regarding Fielding, &#8216;someone voted for him&#8217;. </p>
<p>Hold me, I&#8217;m scared.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Blogonaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean the Blogonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here we ge to the bottom of the matter.  The extreme right wing christian agenda.  

I wonder when we might be able to censor fielding and his cronies for their religious extremism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here we ge to the bottom of the matter.  The extreme right wing christian agenda.  </p>
<p>I wonder when we might be able to censor fielding and his cronies for their religious extremism.</p>
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