You compare looking at porn or drugs on the internet to something like speeding? You really are an ignorant fool. Its people like you who blatently do things before thinking that ruin it for the rest of us. I’ll tell you my agenda, I live in Australia and I use the internet to reasearch everything and anything, and it is the best information tool that we have. The point thats been made before, is why censor it on the internet and not in public libraries, seminars, why not go the whole way.
You cant get in your car and speed anywhere but a race track you gimp, and the last time i checked, my healthy obsession with porn in my living room only helps my relationship with my girlfriend
If the peddo’s out there dont get their fix online, imagine all the hidden camera’s being bought for public toilets and alike…

I make this point though and it cannot be overlooked.

If these are the two major reasons for a CR banning and induction of ISP filters with no guaranteed success rate based on test performances the average person agrees with, that lead to the demise and cease of freedoms in out country that we have all come to know. Democratically legal content such as for example a displeasing violent scene caught and uploaded on utube of a dog savaging a person …or a man fetishing a leather boot and consequently slapping his partner in un-atoned bliss, then we cannot in my opinion, make legislation with RC filters, as common rights to other materials, as expressed above would be taken from us the common decent, moral tax paying individual. Until government could adopt a software to do the job of ‘a gatekeeper of horrid and minority porn’ without affecting the previously affected freedoms of Australians, then nothing should be done, as it jeopodises the main importance of a free democratically structured society, leaving only in its wake a disgruntled, oppressed society that cannot create of their own will their own virtue.

Not to mention the fact the government has much bigger objectives, no doubt like the one to yet pawn(not pioneer) many new structures like the RC / ISP filtering as a way to cease any ability for the average Australian internet savy businessman, to make any amount of money out of a now 2 billion per year + adult industry.

Simply put if the government tomorrow allowed porn or adult web site hosting for 18+ material, within a year I and every internet professional could cash in big time with large revenue in their pockets. Like pot or media networks of US, if they cant make the money distributing it, nobody can!

It seems that its ok to show people dying in the twin towers, or on the ‘Underbelly series’ of episodes making the cool, the one who kills, deals Heroin and etc, though a law that takes one of the only pleasures contemporary people seek…come on how ludicrous!

Stalk your pedophiles and heroin barons but “not I” sais the typical Australian!

This proposal relies, at it’s core, on a process of submissions to ACMA in order for items to be reviewed and taken down. That means someone has to phone, email or fax a link to a person at ACMA, who will then put it on the queue for review.

Even putting aside all other objections and technical flaws, surely this in and of itself effectively precludes the proposal from being effective?

If I wanted to run a CP site unbothered by this filter, I would simply set up a non-offensive page with a single button on it. The target destination URL behind the button would change every day automatically – click it, you get your CP. Submit to ACMA and it is deemed RC? No problem, there’s a new URL the next day.

Obviously there’s also a broader issue that the volume of new pages daily is beyond even the collective effort of all the citizens of Australia put together to review and submit.

The net effect (if you’ll excuse the pun) is that if this system is implemented, non-savvy parents such as those on the SBS Insight program will think ‘phew, now we have a filter, I can relax’, when actually the filter will have very, very little effect at all.

Mike has already explained that he lives in Australia and doesn’t wish the government blocking access to legal material.

Until such time as “RC” material is deemed illegal then from a legal perspective (and that’s what we are covering) is all you need to know.

I do live in Australia and therefore I live and abide by Australian law. As such, restricting access to all material which is RC means I can’t access something online which I can legally do under nearly all circumstances off (with the obvious exception).

If I was to say you’re trolling, “I reckon I might well be right”.

To be frank, all I’m reading here, is a lot of moaning and whinging from a few selfish individuals whose only motivation seems to be that of putting their own self interests ahead of everyone elses And I have to wonder if these same posters feigning outrage at the government’s plans are also the same selfish individuals who blatantly ignore speed limits on the roads and put other people’s lives in danger, because “speed limits are simply just another form of government action purposely designed to restrict the rights and freedoms of individuals”. I reckon I might well be right.

Who is “they”? It could be government, the bureauracy, or some other player unknown at this time. Damned if I know.

I do think the CP stuff is a red herring and a very smelly one at that. I don’t think Rudd/Conroy are setting the agenda here. My gut feeling is that it ties back to the AUSFTA and AFACT/RIAA. There is no real evidence to support this, other than a letter from AFACT to ACMA proposing a filter which would catch porn as well as copyright infringement.

For me, the federal opposition has been too quiet on this whole issue. How could they miss such an opportunity to sling dirt at Labor given that the government has been coping a real hammering over this and Conroy is such an easy target. The opposition front bench could tear Conroy to shreads and they leave it to some back-bencher? I think not! The other thing is that in 2003 Richard Alston put ACMA out of reach of FOI. Their excuse was “to protect the children”. Makes me think the agenda has been set and Labor has no option but to follow through.

I don’t think that porn needs complex filters. There just isn’t that much of it out there any more. Certainly not matching the figures often quoted by the inimitable Ms McM. Policing copyright infringement does need sophisticated filters so we come back to the AUSFTA which must be fully implemented very soon and a large part of all FTAs around the world has been copyright and patent related.

How’s that for a conspiracy theory? One day we’ll all have an Ah-Ha moment and wonder why we were all so b….y stupid. I just hope it does not come too late.

This stuff is way too complicated for main-stream media. It can’t be expressed in a headline and a short paragraph so they aren’t interested.