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		<title>By: james23</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-8369</link>
		<dc:creator>james23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ok as long the nude model is over 18, and wants to do it as an art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ok as long the nude model is over 18, and wants to do it as an art.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-7205</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ GJ, a lot of women enjoy knowing that people find them attractive, and are not ashamed about showing off their body or doing things that give them pleasure for film, and the pleasure of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ GJ, a lot of women enjoy knowing that people find them attractive, and are not ashamed about showing off their body or doing things that give them pleasure for film, and the pleasure of others.</p>
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		<title>By: GJ</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-7019</link>
		<dc:creator>GJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to know what AW pays the girls for an &quot;average&quot; fotoshooting. May be this will finally explain to me why young educated women present themselves in a pornographic way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to know what AW pays the girls for an &#8220;average&#8221; fotoshooting. May be this will finally explain to me why young educated women present themselves in a pornographic way.</p>
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		<title>By: Australia’s 20 Worst Cases of Censorship and Moral Panic in 2009 - Somebody Think Of The Children</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-6900</link>
		<dc:creator>Australia’s 20 Worst Cases of Censorship and Moral Panic in 2009 - Somebody Think Of The Children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] popular Australian-operated adult website Abby Winters was raided by police in June 2009 after The Herald Sun provided police with &#8216;a dossier of information&#8217; about the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sex.com.au</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-5923</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex.com.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a leading voice for the Australian adult industry, we want to add our voice of support to AbbyWinters.com, in the hopes that the Victorian legal system will see through this obvious hatchet job.

http://www.sex.com.au/index.php/the-news/3-newsflash/992-abby-winters-police-raid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a leading voice for the Australian adult industry, we want to add our voice of support to AbbyWinters.com, in the hopes that the Victorian legal system will see through this obvious hatchet job.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sex.com.au/index.php/the-news/3-newsflash/992-abby-winters-police-raid" rel="nofollow">http://www.sex.com.au/index.php/the-news/3-newsflash/992-abby-winters-police-raid</a></p>
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		<title>By: Keeper</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-5907</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australian politicians are hypocrites. They are bad-mouthing other &quot;unfree&quot; countries while Australia is nearly the same. Country can&#039;t be called &quot;free&quot; if it&#039;s prohibiting filming a film which shows consenting adults during sexual activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australian politicians are hypocrites. They are bad-mouthing other &#8220;unfree&#8221; countries while Australia is nearly the same. Country can&#8217;t be called &#8220;free&#8221; if it&#8217;s prohibiting filming a film which shows consenting adults during sexual activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Iamcuriousblue</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-5904</link>
		<dc:creator>Iamcuriousblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BrianF:

Hmmmm – not advocating having under-18 models in porn (you have to set the age limit somewhere), however, it does seem to be a little bit ridiculous that, on one hand, shooting porn with somebody on their 18th birthday is 100% legal, but, as you would have it, film somebody a few months before that and they should be sent to the Gulag. (Does Australia even *have* a sentence of &quot;hard labor&quot;?)

In any event, the allegation in question is pure bullshit, as is the rest the Herald Sun story. Keith Moor, the Herald-Sun author read Liandra Dahl&#039;s blog (which noted that some Abby Winters &quot;look young&quot;), exaggerated everything what was said there, and went to the police with charges and kept on them until they raided G Media. The police have promptly found nothing to substantiate Moor&#039;s accusations. 

I have serious doubts, in fact, about whether most of what was reported in the Herald-Sun story took place at all. I think Moor simply went to the police with the charges, learned of the police raid, then reported what he *thought* the police were going to do, rather than waiting to cover the event after it transpired.

I think Moor has violated journalistic ethics on a very fundamental level and if anybody should be targeted for legal action, it&#039;s him. I think he&#039;s guilty, criminally, of filing a false police report, and civilly, of libel.

So, anyway, Brian, I think you need to put down the torch and pitchfork and find your villains elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianF:</p>
<p>Hmmmm – not advocating having under-18 models in porn (you have to set the age limit somewhere), however, it does seem to be a little bit ridiculous that, on one hand, shooting porn with somebody on their 18th birthday is 100% legal, but, as you would have it, film somebody a few months before that and they should be sent to the Gulag. (Does Australia even *have* a sentence of &#8220;hard labor&#8221;?)</p>
<p>In any event, the allegation in question is pure bullshit, as is the rest the Herald Sun story. Keith Moor, the Herald-Sun author read Liandra Dahl&#8217;s blog (which noted that some Abby Winters &#8220;look young&#8221;), exaggerated everything what was said there, and went to the police with charges and kept on them until they raided G Media. The police have promptly found nothing to substantiate Moor&#8217;s accusations. </p>
<p>I have serious doubts, in fact, about whether most of what was reported in the Herald-Sun story took place at all. I think Moor simply went to the police with the charges, learned of the police raid, then reported what he *thought* the police were going to do, rather than waiting to cover the event after it transpired.</p>
<p>I think Moor has violated journalistic ethics on a very fundamental level and if anybody should be targeted for legal action, it&#8217;s him. I think he&#8217;s guilty, criminally, of filing a false police report, and civilly, of libel.</p>
<p>So, anyway, Brian, I think you need to put down the torch and pitchfork and find your villains elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianF</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-5897</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Herald Sun reports police have seen a copy of a driver’s licence of one G Media nude model, allegedly showing she was 17 when photographed.&quot;

This is an extremely serious allegation.
If this is true, then AbbyWinters.com should be shut down, G Media&#039;s assets confiscated, and Garion Hall and anyone involved in the approval of the underage model should get lengthy prison sentences with hard labour, as a warning to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Herald Sun reports police have seen a copy of a driver’s licence of one G Media nude model, allegedly showing she was 17 when photographed.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is an extremely serious allegation.<br />
If this is true, then AbbyWinters.com should be shut down, G Media&#8217;s assets confiscated, and Garion Hall and anyone involved in the approval of the underage model should get lengthy prison sentences with hard labour, as a warning to others.</p>
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		<title>By: Ngaio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ngaio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw a bumper sticker recently...

&quot;Is that a fact, or did you read that in the Herald Sun?&quot;

Mwahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw a bumper sticker recently&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Is that a fact, or did you read that in the Herald Sun?&#8221;</p>
<p>Mwahaha!</p>
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		<title>By: AbbyWinters Raid &#171; Iamcuriousblue</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australian-adult-website-abby-winters-raided/comment-page-1/#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator>AbbyWinters Raid &#171; Iamcuriousblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By iamcuriousblue  H/T to Somebody Think Of The Children for the stories on the GMedia raid (link and link). Further commentary and background [...]</description>
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