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	<title>Comments on: An open letter to Australian Women Online about their support of ISP filtering</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-women-online/comment-page-1/#comment-8047</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The website australianwomenonline.com is also promoting a scam: 

http://twitter.com/AusWomenOnline/status/16384461041 

http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/05/swipebids-jesse-willms/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The website australianwomenonline.com is also promoting a scam: </p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/AusWomenOnline/status/16384461041" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/AusWomenOnline/status/16384461041</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/05/swipebids-jesse-willms/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/05/swipebids-jesse-willms/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Fanshaw</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-women-online/comment-page-1/#comment-3470</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fanshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we can not blame the internet or this, we as parents or adults need to put a plan in place.



David Fanshaw
 http://www.v3Dates.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we can not blame the internet or this, we as parents or adults need to put a plan in place.</p>
<p>David Fanshaw<br />
 <a href="http://www.v3Dates.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.v3Dates.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sansha</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-women-online/comment-page-1/#comment-3029</link>
		<dc:creator>Sansha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post and thread make me so angry: http://forums.australianwomenonline.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=2511#p2511

I didn&#039;t even know that STotC had already done a topic on AWO and the rampant ignorant women that run it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post and thread make me so angry: <a href="http://forums.australianwomenonline.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=2511#p2511" rel="nofollow">http://forums.australianwomenonline.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=2511#p2511</a></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even know that STotC had already done a topic on AWO and the rampant ignorant women that run it.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Tivey</title>
		<link>http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/an-open-letter-to-australian-women-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2110</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Tivey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These women are rampant feminazis who really shouldn&#039;t even be allowed to exist. We really need to fear these uneducated middle-class women, because they have heaps of time on their hands, and no brains. they react against anything they do not understand. We had them wen I was a kid in the 60&#039;s, ranting &amp; railing against the evils of Rock&amp;Roll. Same mindset, different medium. This censorship MUST NOT go ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These women are rampant feminazis who really shouldn&#8217;t even be allowed to exist. We really need to fear these uneducated middle-class women, because they have heaps of time on their hands, and no brains. they react against anything they do not understand. We had them wen I was a kid in the 60&#8242;s, ranting &amp; railing against the evils of Rock&amp;Roll. Same mindset, different medium. This censorship MUST NOT go ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: starlessaeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>starlessaeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great letter.

I also wrote to them saying something along the lines of that I&#039;m embarrassed to be an Australian woman if the likes of them are claiming to speak on my behalf. and also that before long their archaic views will be ignored, because freedom of speech loving gen y will soon be in control of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great letter.</p>
<p>I also wrote to them saying something along the lines of that I&#8217;m embarrassed to be an Australian woman if the likes of them are claiming to speak on my behalf. and also that before long their archaic views will be ignored, because freedom of speech loving gen y will soon be in control of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI GUYS,
I POSTED THIS REQUEST ON THE AUSTRALIAN WOMEN ONLINE WEBSITE BECAUSE MINISTER CONROY REFUSED TO RESPOND TO ME....

I wrote this letter to Minister Conroy and had no response . I thought with your unyeilding support of him you would be able to get it through to him for me...

Dear Minister,
    Your work towards the filtering of online content to all Australians is ludicrous. We are a nation of free thinking free speaking people with some of the best minds in the world. You seek to shelter us from the information age and impose on us a view of the world from behind rose coloured glasses. 
As adults we deserve the right to censor our own information and place restrictions on what our children view as well. 
As Australians we deserve the right to free speech and the ability to read and share our opinions and points of view from those other than our countrymen. 
Preventative education is better than a blanket restriction. You will drive more people to view the information you are restricting simply by placing a taboo on it and escalating the desirability of the information. Educate our children in nutrition and healthy self images rather than dumb them down and shake your finger at them. 
Spend the money on educating our society on their rights and options when it comes to terminal care and pain management. Do not remove one of the final bastions of hope and acts of self relief from the desperate amongst us in intolerable pain without cure or hope of respite from the pain. 
All of the information you seek to block is available on peer to peer networks and readily accessible to anyone with access to the internet. 
A waste of time and money. Spend it on the children and educate them to the dangers the internet poses and help us keep them safe from predators and pedlars.
I hope that your views may change with time and you will seek to re-educate, re-invest and support our nation in their pursuit of education, entertainment, freedom and lastly, relief from personal guilt and pain if so desired. I welcome your retort and look forward with great gusto to an open dialogue on an issue that should only exist in totalitarian states.
 
 
Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI GUYS,<br />
I POSTED THIS REQUEST ON THE AUSTRALIAN WOMEN ONLINE WEBSITE BECAUSE MINISTER CONROY REFUSED TO RESPOND TO ME&#8230;.</p>
<p>I wrote this letter to Minister Conroy and had no response . I thought with your unyeilding support of him you would be able to get it through to him for me&#8230;</p>
<p>Dear Minister,<br />
    Your work towards the filtering of online content to all Australians is ludicrous. We are a nation of free thinking free speaking people with some of the best minds in the world. You seek to shelter us from the information age and impose on us a view of the world from behind rose coloured glasses.<br />
As adults we deserve the right to censor our own information and place restrictions on what our children view as well.<br />
As Australians we deserve the right to free speech and the ability to read and share our opinions and points of view from those other than our countrymen.<br />
Preventative education is better than a blanket restriction. You will drive more people to view the information you are restricting simply by placing a taboo on it and escalating the desirability of the information. Educate our children in nutrition and healthy self images rather than dumb them down and shake your finger at them.<br />
Spend the money on educating our society on their rights and options when it comes to terminal care and pain management. Do not remove one of the final bastions of hope and acts of self relief from the desperate amongst us in intolerable pain without cure or hope of respite from the pain.<br />
All of the information you seek to block is available on peer to peer networks and readily accessible to anyone with access to the internet.<br />
A waste of time and money. Spend it on the children and educate them to the dangers the internet poses and help us keep them safe from predators and pedlars.<br />
I hope that your views may change with time and you will seek to re-educate, re-invest and support our nation in their pursuit of education, entertainment, freedom and lastly, relief from personal guilt and pain if so desired. I welcome your retort and look forward with great gusto to an open dialogue on an issue that should only exist in totalitarian states.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: anonny-ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonny-ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adolescent psychologist Michael Carr-Gregg said …
“Oral and anal sex have become almost normalised among 13-year- olds,”.

Bit of free advice from somebody who knows a bit about psych research. Carr-Gregg&#039;s routine is often nothing more than conservative middle-class moral panic dressed up in pseudo-scientific rhetoric. He frequently makes claims well beyond what the actual scientific evidence supports. Many in psych are not happy with many of his public statements.

Take everything he says with a large grain of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adolescent psychologist Michael Carr-Gregg said …<br />
“Oral and anal sex have become almost normalised among 13-year- olds,”.</p>
<p>Bit of free advice from somebody who knows a bit about psych research. Carr-Gregg&#8217;s routine is often nothing more than conservative middle-class moral panic dressed up in pseudo-scientific rhetoric. He frequently makes claims well beyond what the actual scientific evidence supports. Many in psych are not happy with many of his public statements.</p>
<p>Take everything he says with a large grain of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adolescent psychologist Michael Carr-Gregg said …
“Oral and anal sex have become almost normalised among 13-year- olds,”

 ------------------------

 &quot;oral and anal sex&quot; (being promoted by the government in the United Kingdom (2003)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article885612.ece

February 21, 2003

Government urges under-16s to experiment with oral sex

By Glen Owen, Education Correspondent 

A GOVERNMENT-backed course is encouraging pupils under 16 to experiment with oral sex, as part of a drive to cut rates of teenage pregnancy. 

Family campaigners believe that the course, called A Pause, is having the reverse effect by exciting the sexual interest of children. 

The scheme, which has been pioneered by Exeter University and is backed by the Departments of Health and Education, trains teachers to discuss various pre-sex “stopping points” with under-age teenagers. 

It aims to reduce promiscuity by encouraging pupils to discover “levels of intimacy”, including oral sex, instead of full sexual intercourse. 

More than 100,000 children are now taking the course at one in every thirty secondary schools. It forms part of efforts to tackle Britain’s teenage pregnancy rate, which is the highest in Western Europe. 

 ======================

 I DON&#039;T BELIEVE IT&#039;S POSSIBLE TO BLAME THE INTERNET FOR THIS !  Perhaps similar schemes are being promoted in Australia.  

 In any case I would expect parents to have some involvement, or at least be aware.  They should be aware of what their children are doing or seeing or being advised about.

 The person making this statement is an &quot;adolescent psychologist&quot;.  I would expect that his exposure to this type of issue arises from &quot;problem children&quot; and no doubt his viewpoint is skewed due to his occupation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adolescent psychologist Michael Carr-Gregg said …<br />
“Oral and anal sex have become almost normalised among 13-year- olds,”</p>
<p> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p> &#8220;oral and anal sex&#8221; (being promoted by the government in the United Kingdom (2003)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article885612.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article885612.ece</a></p>
<p>February 21, 2003</p>
<p>Government urges under-16s to experiment with oral sex</p>
<p>By Glen Owen, Education Correspondent </p>
<p>A GOVERNMENT-backed course is encouraging pupils under 16 to experiment with oral sex, as part of a drive to cut rates of teenage pregnancy. </p>
<p>Family campaigners believe that the course, called A Pause, is having the reverse effect by exciting the sexual interest of children. </p>
<p>The scheme, which has been pioneered by Exeter University and is backed by the Departments of Health and Education, trains teachers to discuss various pre-sex “stopping points” with under-age teenagers. </p>
<p>It aims to reduce promiscuity by encouraging pupils to discover “levels of intimacy”, including oral sex, instead of full sexual intercourse. </p>
<p>More than 100,000 children are now taking the course at one in every thirty secondary schools. It forms part of efforts to tackle Britain’s teenage pregnancy rate, which is the highest in Western Europe. </p>
<p> ======================</p>
<p> I DON&#8217;T BELIEVE IT&#8217;S POSSIBLE TO BLAME THE INTERNET FOR THIS !  Perhaps similar schemes are being promoted in Australia.  </p>
<p> In any case I would expect parents to have some involvement, or at least be aware.  They should be aware of what their children are doing or seeing or being advised about.</p>
<p> The person making this statement is an &#8220;adolescent psychologist&#8221;.  I would expect that his exposure to this type of issue arises from &#8220;problem children&#8221; and no doubt his viewpoint is skewed due to his occupation.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunate that Ms Hutchinson has taken a la-la-la-I-can&#039;t-hear-you approach to any correspondence on the matter, but please rest assured that your effort has not gone to waste. I talk about this subject with friends and family, and I&#039;ll suggest that they read your excellent post on this page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that Ms Hutchinson has taken a la-la-la-I-can&#8217;t-hear-you approach to any correspondence on the matter, but please rest assured that your effort has not gone to waste. I talk about this subject with friends and family, and I&#8217;ll suggest that they read your excellent post on this page.</p>
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		<title>By: clarencegirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>clarencegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geordie Guy,
You can tell Australian Women Online what you think of their position on Conroy&#039;s censorship plans by using the contact the editor form at
http://www.australianwomenonline.com/about/ or phone her at 61 (2) 9835 1128.
Go for it - I did!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geordie Guy,<br />
You can tell Australian Women Online what you think of their position on Conroy&#8217;s censorship plans by using the contact the editor form at<br />
<a href="http://www.australianwomenonline.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://www.australianwomenonline.com/about/</a> or phone her at 61 (2) 9835 1128.<br />
Go for it &#8211; I did!</p>
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